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<v Drew>We were just popping off on a on a patented rant about audio inputs.

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<v Drew>Yeah.

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<v Drew>And we missed all that.

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<v Paul>And we missed it all.

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<v Drew>All I'll say, all I'll

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<v Drew>say is

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<v Drew>I unplug my Mac, I put it in the

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<v Drew>the bag that I take and it goes with me on my trip.

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<v Drew>And when I come home

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<v Drew>I can plug the little cord from the monitor, which charges it,

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<v Drew>but any peripherals I have plugged into the monitor, I have to unplug and re-plug in.

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<v Paul>Yeah, that was always the issue with the

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<v Paul>'Cause you have

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<v Paul>you have my old one of

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<v Paul>oh

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<v Paul>well yeah, the five

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<v Paul>LG

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<v Paul>Ultrafine

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<v Paul>five K.

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<v Paul>Yeah, that th

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<v Paul>that was a great monitor unless unless you wanted to use the ports on the back of it, which I basically just didn't.

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<v Paul>Uh

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<v Paul>and

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<v Paul>yeah.

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<v Drew>I mean if

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<v Drew>uh just

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<v Drew>again, I can't really

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<v Drew>I can't really see

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<v Drew>I can't really show on camera the way that it's set up, but it's it's a big pain in the ass.

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<v Drew>Because I have

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<v Drew>I have just a regular lightning, regular lightning cable to charge my work phone plugged into that.

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<v Drew>And I have my webcam plugged into it.

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<v Drew>So

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<v Drew>I can't tell you the number of times I've come home from a trip and plugged in my phone and come down the next day and realized that it's dead because I never just unplugged it and plugged it back in from the monitor for it to detect that hey, there's a cable there.

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<v Paul>You know, so I

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<v Paul>have

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<v Paul>uh uh

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<v Paul>I have a Caldigit TS5

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<v Paul>Plus

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<v Paul>Thunderbolt dock that I use.

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<v Drew>How

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<v Drew>did

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<v Drew>it

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<v Paul>okay?

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<v Paul>Yeah.

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<v Paul>like

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<v Paul>amongst the best.

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<v Drew>I'm gonna need a link because this is gonna be this is gonna be relevant for later in the show.

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<v Paul>Okay, alright.

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<v Paul>Uh

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<v Paul>hold on.

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<v Paul>I have the TS5, hold on.

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<v Paul>They have a TS5

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<v Paul>and a TS5

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<v Paul>Pro.

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<v Paul>I have the

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<v Paul>TS5 Plus.

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<v Paul>All right, there's a link coming in here

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<v Paul>real quick.

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<v Paul>Okay.

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<v Paul>And

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<v Paul>let me just

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<v Paul>put that.

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<v Paul>There we go.

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<v Paul>There's the link.

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<v Paul>And I like it because again I have that one cable, but it has a lot of ports on it, lots of peripherals, and has an Ethernet port.

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<v Paul>And that's what I want to talk about.

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<v Paul>So the Ethernet port.

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<v Paul>The first

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<v Paul>time I plug in the Thunderbolt.

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<v Drew>I'm sorry, which one?

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<v Paul>I have the TS5 Plus.

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<v Drew>TS5 Plus.

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<v Drew>Okay, sorry.

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<v Paul>Go ahead.

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<v Paul>It's it's it's the it's it's expensive.

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<v Paul>It's expensive.

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<v Paul>Thunderbolt shit's expensive.

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<v Paul>Uh

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<v Paul>When I plug it in for the first time, it finds the

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<v Paul>the

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<v Paul>Ethernet

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<v Paul>port

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<v Paul>and it's part of the the Thunderbolt dock and it switches to use that.

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<v Drew>Okay.

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<v Paul>Every time

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<v Paul>I

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<v Paul>that my Mac

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<v Paul>sleeps and wakes back up, everything else that is plugged directly into it, my monitor, my keyboard

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<v Paul>uh

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<v Paul>speakers, a bunch of USB-C stuff.

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<v Paul>All of that stuff comes on and works flawlessly.

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<v Paul>The Ethernet port does not.

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<v Paul>I have to unplug and replug in and then the Ethernet port.

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<v Paul>Wakes up.

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<v Drew>Huh.

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<v Paul>At some point I may sit down with Claude and be like, what am I doing wrong?

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<v Paul>Or what is wrong?

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<v Paul>And see if he can figure it out, but I haven't done that yet, so

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<v Drew>I gotta say, when you said cow digit, I thought it was gonna be like C

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<v Drew>O

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<v Drew>W

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<v Drew>like

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<v Paul>Cow,

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<v Paul>Cow

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<v Paul>is

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<v Paul>Cal.

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<v Paul>C O

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<v Paul>Cow

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<v Paul>like

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<v Paul>California.

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<v Paul>Yeah, exactly.

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<v Paul>Yeah.

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<v Paul>I've had cow digit thunderbolt ducks for a while and I recently upgraded to

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<v Paul>uh

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<v Paul>the thing is I have generally learned that a thunder

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<v Paul>Thunderbolt dock when used a lot

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<v Paul>lasts maybe about two

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<v Paul>and a half, three years before it

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<v Paul>just starts going bad.

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<v Drew>And do you think it's because they run hot?

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<v Paul>They do

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<v Paul>they do get real hot.

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<v Paul>They get real hot

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<v Drew>All that data blazing through it.

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<v Drew>I I want to put a pin in that though, because it's going to be relevant to

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<v Drew>the conversation that happens later

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<v Drew>about

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<v Drew>docs and USB and things like that.

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<v Paul>Okay, okay, okay.

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<v Drew>All right.

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<v Drew>Where do we want to start here?

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<v Drew>I

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<v Paul>that's to start

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<v Paul>the

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<v Paul>this the first top

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<v Paul>this

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<v Paul>one's gonna be real quick.

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<v Paul>Uh

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<v Paul>I just want a little bit of follow-up

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<v Paul>from our discussion

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<v Paul>last

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<v Paul>uh

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<v Paul>last episode about AI machines and our advice to Andrew.

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<v Paul>Uh

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<v Paul>Federico

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<v Paul>Vittici, who writes for MacStories.

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<v Paul>com.

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<v Paul>He is a big AI boy, and Apple basically gave him the same machine that Andrew was thinking about buying, just with some more storage.

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<v Paul>And he really put it through the paces of using it for local AI.

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<v Paul>Uh, it's a really

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<v Paul>interesting article.

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<v Paul>It also talks about his setup and what it was using it for.

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<v Paul>Uh he did compare he does have a 5090 gaming PC and he did compare it to

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<v Paul>that.

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<v Paul>And basically

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<v Paul>his findings were

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<v Paul>The 5090 is faster, but the 256 gigs of unified memory allowed him to load much larger models into the Mac.

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<v Drew>Right.

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<v Paul>So

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<v Paul>It's

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<v Paul>and there's charts and there's stuff and it's it's a really, really interesting article if you're a really big nerd.

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<v Paul>Uh

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<v Paul>I actually

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<v Paul>I sent

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<v Paul>the article literally came out

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<v Paul>uh

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<v Paul>the day before I published the podcast.

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<v Paul>So

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<v Paul>in between order

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<v Paul>uh

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<v Paul>recording it and publishing it.

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<v Paul>So I did s I did uh send it to Andrew.

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<v Paul>directly and saying like hey read this uh

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<v Paul>but it's a really good read if you were interested in local

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<v Paul>if you want to spend uh you know

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<v Paul>umpteen thousand dollars on a Mac

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<v Paul>Uh and

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<v Paul>a Max

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<v Paul>Studio M5

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<v Paul>Ultra

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<v Paul>for local AI.

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<v Paul>You can look at this article and see exactly what kind of performance to expect

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<v Paul>and what models

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<v Paul>he used.

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<v Paul>It's a really it's a really interesting read.

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<v Paul>So

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<v Drew>it was it was a really good article.

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<v Drew>It it touched on basically everything we talked about last week

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<v Drew>and

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<v Drew>those metrics

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<v Drew>Time

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<v Drew>to first

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<v Drew>token, generation speed.

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<v Drew>It is interesting to see what an improvement the M5

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<v Drew>Ultra is over the M3

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<v Drew>Ultra.

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<v Paul>Yeah.

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<v Drew>And then, you know, he basically broke it out over the different model sizes, which is great.

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<v Drew>So

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<v Drew>I I

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<v Drew>think there you go.

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<v Drew>And he used one of the Quen 38

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<v Drew>models, which again

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<v Paul>That's what you're reading.

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<v Drew>I've actually been doing a little side project locally.

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<v Drew>You'd be

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<v Drew>Paul you'd be so proud of me.

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<v Drew>You'd be so proud of me.

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<v Drew>I'm learning so many things about TypeScript

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<v Drew>You don't even know.

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<v Paul>TypeScript is for losers.

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<v Paul>Real men write

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<v Paul>JavaScript.

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<v Drew>God damn it, you're the second person to tell me that.

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<v Paul>No, I

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<v Drew>'ll

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<v Paul>I get why.

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<v Paul>Yeah,

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<v Paul>TypeScript it likes yeah, it's it's

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<v Paul>I

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<v Paul>sorry.

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<v Paul>I'm

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<v Drew>Aren't they kind of the same thing?

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<v Paul>Well

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<v Paul>so

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<v Paul>they are because

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<v Drew>it came from TypeScript, right?

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<v Paul>Well TypeScript does not run natively in your browser.

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<v Paul>You have to run it through a compilation script step to produce JavaScript in which to run.

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<v Drew>Okay.

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<v Paul>So it's it's a it's a language that compiles to JavaScript and it adds type safety and a whole bunch of stuff that

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<v Paul>it, you know.

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<v Drew>Stuff that John Kruger cares about.

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<v Paul>Yeah, stuff that doesn't exist in JavaScript.

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<v Paul>JavaScript is like types, who gives a shit?

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<v Paul>Just

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<v Paul>just

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<v Paul>you f

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<v Paul>you're an adult, you figure it out.

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<v Drew>You're a big boy.

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<v Drew>Oh

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<v Drew>man, I I can't wait to talk about what I'm building.

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<v Drew>I can't talk about it yet.

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<v Drew>I can't talk about it yet, but it's it's very close to being a real app

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<v Drew>with authentication and payment methods.

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<v Drew>and like

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<v Drew>Postgres, which is nuts.

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<v Drew>Um

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<v Drew>it's gonna be great.

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<v Drew>It's gonna be great.

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<v Drew>So yeah, great article.

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<v Drew>I'd be curious if Andrew does follow up with us.

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<v Paul>Yeah.

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<v Paul>I haven't gotten anything back from you yet, but I'm

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<v Paul>interested to hear what he does.

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<v Paul>Do you want to move the concert talk first and then just talk digigames the rest of the way?

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<v Paul>Okay.

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<v Drew>Yes.

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<v Paul>Okay.

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<v Paul>Uh

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<v Paul>If you can't hear it in my voice, my voice is a little uh

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<v Paul>little

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<v Paul>little

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<v Paul>scratchy today.

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<v Paul>Uh

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<v Paul>that's because last

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<v Paul>night uh my daughter and I went to see good old Billy Corrigan

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<v Paul>and the Smashing Pumpkins at the Schottenstein Arena.

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<v Paul>And

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<v Paul>oh my god, Drew, it was an amazing show.

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<v Drew>I'm glad.

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<v Drew>Absolutely.

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<v Drew>I was jealous.

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<v Drew>I was very jealous.

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<v Paul>Incredible.

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<v Paul>Incredible.

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<v Paul>So

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<v Paul>I have never been to a show exactly like this.

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<v Paul>So, uh, there was no opening act.

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<v Paul>It was just the smashing pumpkins.

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<v Paul>And

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<v Paul>uh

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<v Paul>The

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<v Paul>the show was a celebration, I guess

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<v Paul>technically last year

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<v Paul>was the 30th

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<v Paul>anniversary of the album Melancholy and the Infinite Sadness.

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<v Paul>Uh

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<v Paul>came out in 1995 or six, I believe.

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<v Paul>One of those two years.

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<v Paul>Uh

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<v Paul>double album.

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<v Paul>Uh

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<v Paul>extremely good album.

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<v Paul>Uh

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<v Paul>So

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<v Paul>the concert was in two

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<v Paul>sets.

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<v Paul>The first set

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<v Paul>was nothing

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<v Paul>but songs from Melicali

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<v Paul>and the Infinite Sadness.

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<v Drew>All right.

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<v Paul>And then they they went away for twenty minutes and they came back and did another set which was more of a traditional like, you know, we're gonna play some deep cuts and then some of their their bigger hits.

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<v Paul>And it was literally like two concerts in one.

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<v Paul>It was like

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<v Paul>they

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<v Paul>started playing maybe around like 8.

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<v Paul>15

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<v Paul>and were done like at 11.

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<v Paul>30.

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<v Paul>Like it was like

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<v Paul>And like every time, especially in the first set, like

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<v Paul>they would do like a bang.

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<v Paul>They they play like zero.

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<v Paul>I'm like, okay, that has to be the last song in the set.

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<v Paul>Then you would see guitar c

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<v Paul>guitar

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<v Paul>techs come out and they would trade guitars and then they would do two more songs.

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<v Paul>It'd be like, that's gotta be it.

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<v Paul>Nope, guitar techs come back out.

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<v Paul>Each

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<v Paul>Each guitarist probably had at least a dozen

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<v Paul>probably more.

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<v Paul>At least a dozen different guitars that they went through during the show.

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<v Paul>It was ridiculous.

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<v Paul>But it was like.

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<v Paul>It was

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<v Paul>it was real

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<v Paul>real good

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<v Paul>drew.

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<v Paul>It was real good.

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<v Paul>I

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<v Paul>that's

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<v Paul>the show was just that

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<v Paul>the

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<v Paul>the set was neat, the

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<v Paul>they

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<v Paul>They s

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<v Paul>they

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<v Paul>sounded really good.

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<v Paul>Uh, you know, I got to watch Billy Corrigan dance around in his little

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<v Paul>cause he wears those little dresses now.

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<v Paul>I don't know if you saw.

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<v Paul>Got to watch him dance around in a in in the dress.

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<v Paul>In between sets there was there was an outfit change, which I always appreciate.

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<v Paul>Uh

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<v Paul>Yeah, it was

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<v Paul>it was a

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<v Paul>really, really good show.

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<v Paul>My daughter enjoyed it.

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<v Paul>I enjoyed it.

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<v Paul>I don't think I've seen her see

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<v Paul>smile that big in a long time.

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<v Paul>So

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<v Paul>uh

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<v Paul>Yeah.

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<v Paul>It was

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<v Paul>it was really, really good.

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<v Paul>It was good.

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<v Paul>I'm still kind of buzzing from it.

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<v Drew>Okay.

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<v Paul>Oh

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<v Paul>Excuse me, my voice is

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<v Drew>What time

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<v Drew>what time did they go on?

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<v Paul>Uh

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<v Paul>about

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<v Paul>eight fifteen.

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<v Drew>Okay.

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<v Drew>And they were done by

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<v Paul>like

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<v Paul>eleven

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<v Drew>thirty.

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<v Drew>Okay.

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<v Drew>Oh, so

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<v Drew>long show.

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<v Paul>Mm-hmm.

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<v Paul>Yeah.

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<v Paul>Yeah, it was way longer than I expected to be.

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<v Paul>We got home like a little uh a little

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<v Paul>before midnight.

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<v Paul>Uh

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<v Paul>yeah, it was way

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<v Paul>and there's there was a 20-minute break in between the two sets.

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<v Paul>But they were they played for

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<v Paul>a long

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<v Paul>time.

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<v Paul>Uh

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<v Paul>I mean it wasn't the most elaborate set or light show I've ever seen, but it was just it was good.

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<v Paul>You know, they had

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<v Paul>interesting videos and lights

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<v Paul>and they

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<v Paul>sounded really good.

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<v Paul>Though I will say,

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<v Paul>so

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<v Paul>I can't remember

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<v Paul>I should know I should remember what her name is.

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<v Paul>So like

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<v Paul>obviously, you know, it's

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<v Paul>It's like three-fourths

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<v Paul>of the original members because Darcy

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<v Paul>left after she had her rep

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<v Paul>out with drugs

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<v Paul>and they have another bassist and they basically they tour with another guitarist

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<v Paul>and I cannot remember her name.

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<v Paul>But she is significantly younger than the rest of them.

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<v Drew>Oh.

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<v Paul>And

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<v Paul>uh

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<v Paul>The energy she had compared to the rest of the the

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<v Paul>the band was noticeable.

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<v Paul>Like she was

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<v Drew>They're getting up there.

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<v Paul>Yeah.

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<v Paul>Sh

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<v Paul>I mean, they're older than us, right?

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<v Paul>Like

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<v Paul>She was playing and dancing and moving around like this was like a

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<v Paul>like a job

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<v Paul>job job

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<v Paul>it was auditioned to be in the Smashing Pumpkins.

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<v Paul>She gave it everything and it was just noticeable because

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<v Paul>She was moving around and dancing and then James

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<v Paul>E.

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<v Paul>Haw

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<v Paul>just

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<v Paul>over there like, I'm gonna play guitar, I'm gonna take a step, I'm gonna push this pedal, I'm gonna walk over to the mic, I'm gonna sing

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<v Paul>sing the chorus, I'm gonna walk back over.

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<v Paul>Yeah.

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<v Paul>But

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<v Drew>excellent.

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<v Paul>It was still gre

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<v Paul>it was really good.

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<v Paul>It was really good.

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<v Paul>They did a

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<v Paul>they did a really good show.

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<v Paul>Yeah.

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<v Drew>And obviously you said Arabella joy

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<v Drew>herself.

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<v Paul>Oh she did.

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<v Paul>Yeah.

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<v Drew>Now where were your seats?

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<v Paul>Uh

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<v Paul>we were

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<v Paul>so it was

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<v Paul>in the shot, so we were in section like 123, which was kind of

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<v Paul>stage

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<v Paul>right

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<v Paul>uh

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<v Paul>along the side

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<v Paul>uh

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<v Paul>row L, so like the 12th row up.

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<v Paul>We could see the stage just fine.

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<v Paul>We were maybe 200 feet away from the stage, all things considered.

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<v Paul>Uh

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<v Paul>yeah, it was good.

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<v Paul>We could have gotten floor seats, but

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<v Paul>Some

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<v Paul>you know, she's not the tallest person.

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<v Paul>And so like I don't mind being on the floor because I can stand and see over people, but

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<v Paul>she can't.

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<v Paul>And yeah.

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<v Paul>And it was good because

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<v Paul>like it the crowd was into it like

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<v Paul>most people were standing instead of sitting, which, you know, like I

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<v Paul>I

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<v Paul>you know, some people

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<v Paul>get really upset, like you paid for a seat, why don't you

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<v Paul>sit in it?

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<v Paul>But like

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<v Paul>I like standing.

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<v Paul>I like moving.

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<v Paul>You know, getting into the groove.

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<v Paul>I jam.

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<v Paul>Yeah.

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<v Paul>Shake it a little bit.

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<v Paul>Yeah.

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<v Drew>Yep.

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<v Drew>Yep.

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<v Drew>Shake it.

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<v Paul>So

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<v Paul>it's

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<v Drew>good.

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<v Drew>Now

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<v Drew>How many people do you think were there?

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<v Paul>It was full.

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<v Paul>It was full.

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<v Paul>I don't know how many people

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<v Paul>fit in the shop, but it was it was f

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<v Paul>Well

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<v Drew>normally

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<v Drew>normally

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<v Drew>in

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<v Drew>indoors like that, they have the stage set up on the floor.

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<v Paul>Yeah.

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<v Drew>They don't sell seats behind the stage.

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<v Paul>No.

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<v Paul>You know, alongside it and behind, obviously they didn't have anybody in there.

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<v Paul>Yeah, exactly.

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<v Paul>But the rest of it was pretty full.

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<v Paul>And they had, you know, the floor was completely full of of seats as well.

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<v Paul>So

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<v Paul>I don't know how many people are in there, but I don't

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<v Paul>it

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<v Paul>probably wasn't sold out, but it was

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<v Paul>uh

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<v Paul>It was it was packed.

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<v Drew>The Shantine Center has a maximum capacity of up to twenty thousand for concerts.

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<v Drew>I'm assuming that's because they put people on the floor.

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<v Paul>Yeah, exactly.

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<v Drew>Around nineteen thousand five hundred for basketball

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<v Drew>football and seventeen thousand

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<v Drew>for ice hockey.

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<v Drew>So

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<v Drew>you think they had twenty thousand people?

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<v Paul>It was probably close.

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<v Paul>Yeah.

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<v Drew>Really?

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<v Drew>So they were way up there.

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<v Paul>Yeah, oh yeah.

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<v Paul>All the way up.

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<v Drew>Wow.

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<v Drew>Okay.

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<v Drew>Okay.

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<v Paul>Yep.

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<v Paul>You know, and like that's

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<v Paul>the tickets, you know, I mean, I think they started at a hundred bucks

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<v Paul>And went up from there.

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<v Paul>So

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<v Paul>that's that's that's quite a bit of cheddar.

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<v Drew>And yeah, and I'm sure and I'm sure your seats were on the higher end of that.

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<v Drew>Oh

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<v Drew>,

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<v Paul>Yeah.

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<v Drew>Yeah.

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<v Drew>As

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<v Drew>somebody who has bought my wife Rolling Stones tickets, I get it.

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<v Paul>Yeah.

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<v Paul>Yeah.

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<v Paul>I I

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<v Paul>you know, I like experiences, I like life, music.

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<v Paul>I don't mind spending a little

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<v Paul>extra

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<v Paul>money to get a good seat and have a good experience.

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<v Drew>I don't begrudge that at all.

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<v Drew>Concerts usually aren't my thing.

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<v Drew>I would have gone to that concert.

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<v Drew>I like the smashing pumpkins enough, but I think I would have gone.

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<v Paul>It was really good.

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<v Paul>It was

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<v Paul>it was fun.

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<v Paul>Yeah.

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<v Drew>Cool.

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<v Drew>Well, I'm glad you guys had a good time.

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<v Paul>Yeah, it was great.

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<v Paul>So

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<v Drew>talk about it.

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<v Paul>Drew, how's the steam frame?

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<v Paul>I'll set

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<v Paul>you up there.

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<v Drew>Yeah.

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<v Drew>Alright.

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<v Drew>So uh my steam frame

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<v Drew>came

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<v Drew>came today.

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<v Paul>Okay.

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<v Paul>Today.

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<v Drew>Today

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<v Drew>came

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<v Drew>up

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<v Drew>came today, so I haven't really had a a chance to put it through its paces, but let me talk you through

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<v Drew>the experience so far.

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<v Paul>Okay.

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<v Drew>So I have now owned headsets from Oculus, I have owned headsets from Meta, I have owned headsets from Pimax, and now I have

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<v Drew>I have oh uh I also have owned an a uh headset from HTC, and now

00:15:18.880 --> 00:15:22.400
<v Drew>this is my first piece of like actual valve hardware.

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<v Paul>Yeah.

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<v Drew>So

00:15:23.680 --> 00:15:24.320
<v Drew>remember

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<v Drew>My primary use for

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<v Drew>VR is seated

00:15:28.839 --> 00:15:29.959
<v Drew>experiences.

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<v Drew>We've talked about my flight

00:15:31.480 --> 00:15:31.639
<v Drew>sim

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<v Drew>addiction.

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<v Drew>There's a really good reason why I invested in this, and I'll get to that in a minute.

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<v Drew>So

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<v Drew>First of all, um

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<v Drew>credit to Valve, the setup experience, the driver installs, everything just works.

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<v Drew>The

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<v Drew>when

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<v Drew>you put this on

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<v Drew>It's Steam OS.

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<v Drew>So if you've ever used a s

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<v Drew>if you've ever used a Steam Deck, it's the same thing.

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<v Drew>It's that when you hit the button, you get that in front of you.

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<v Paul>Yeah.

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<v Drew>And you can navigate your library.

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<v Paul>It's Steam

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<v Paul>it's a big picture mode.

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<v Paul>It's the primary interface.

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<v Paul>Yeah.

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<v Paul>Yep.

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<v Paul>Okay.

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<v Drew>And you can either play games directly from it.

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<v Drew>So there is onboard storage and there is a

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<v Drew>There is a micro SD card in here somewhere, I think, if I wanted to add storage, but I'm not going to.

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<v Drew>That's not my use case.

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<v Drew>I will be streaming from the computer.

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<v Drew>So

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<v Drew>I I got it today in the afternoon, and when I had a little break between calls, you know, I unboxed it, I got it set up, I charged it, I had to sign into

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<v Drew>Steam on it, get it all updated and everything.

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<v Drew>And then it was really time to sort of like try it out and see how it works.

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<v Drew>So

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<v Drew>a couple

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<v Drew>couple quick first impressions.

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<v Drew>First of all, it's extremely comfortable.

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<v Drew>Compared to my other headsets, it is not heavy.

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<v Drew>It

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<v Paul>looks very

00:16:44.680 --> 00:16:44.920
<v Paul>it's a

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<v Paul>there's a lot less to it than I've seen

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<v Paul>with a lot of other headsets.

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<v Drew>Well, that's because

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<v Drew>The bulk of the weight is right here.

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<v Paul>This is the battery.

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<v Paul>Okay.

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<v Paul>So the battery's in the back of the head.

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<v Drew>Yep.

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<v Drew>So this

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<v Drew>this back head strap sort of fits up against the back of your head.

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<v Drew>This part is actually pretty light.

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<v Drew>It's not heavy at all.

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<v Drew>Now, in terms of like vision quality and lens quality and everything, I wear contact lenses.

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<v Drew>I

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<v Drew>I did buy the

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<v Drew>it's over there.

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<v Drew>Um

00:17:13.919 --> 00:17:15.679
<v Drew>I did buy the ergonomic

00:17:15.839 --> 00:17:23.919
<v Drew>fit kit if I do want to mess with it and try different headbands or different spacers, which is this piece right here, which it's really easy to take apart.

00:17:23.919 --> 00:17:24.720
<v Drew>It's just magnets.

00:17:24.720 --> 00:17:27.120
<v Drew>So like this is just held on with with magnets.

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<v Drew>So like it's really easy to like swap that stuff out.

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<v Drew>Yep.

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<v Drew>The IPD

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<v Drew>adjustment is totally analog.

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<v Drew>So this little dial right here is the IPD adjustment, which is the distance between your pooples, which helps with focus, it helps with comfort, doesn't make you as nauseous

00:17:42.860 --> 00:17:49.740
<v Drew>But it's also linked to software, so when I'm actually twisting this little dial, it's telling me what the actual IPD instance in the heads-up display is.

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<v Paul>That's nice.

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<v Drew>Which is really nice.

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<v Drew>It does have speakers, it does have

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<v Drew>it does have a microphone, whatever.

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<v Drew>Image quality so far is pretty good.

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<v Drew>It's not as good as the PyMax, I will tell you that from the jump.

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<v Paul>Yeah.

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<v Drew>But when you are using

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<v Paul>different

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<v Drew>Different tier.

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<v Drew>Now, having said that, you know, the menus and the things that I've done with it so far hasn't looked bad.

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<v Drew>I think it looks better than my meta

00:18:13.120 --> 00:18:13.440
<v Drew>quest

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<v Drew>2.

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<v Drew>I don't have a quest 3, I have a meta

00:18:15.440 --> 00:18:15.600
<v Drew>quest

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<v Drew>2.

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<v Drew>Definitely looks better than that, and I think the resolution is higher than the quest three.

00:18:19.500 --> 00:18:22.780
<v Drew>I have to go back and double check that, so don't quote me on that.

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<v Drew>The controllers.

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<v Drew>The controllers are pretty much what you expect.

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<v Drew>They're the standard little layout here.

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<v Drew>They're nice.

00:18:30.840 --> 00:18:32.840
<v Drew>They're just powered by batteries.

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<v Drew>They have um

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<v Drew>interesting side buttons here.

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<v Drew>Like on the side for like

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<v Drew>activating the laser pointer mode for doing things.

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<v Drew>Comes with a left and a right one perfectly fine.

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<v Paul>Okay.

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<v Drew>Okay.

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<v Drew>So I got it all unboxed.

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<v Drew>And

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<v Drew>I

00:18:48.960 --> 00:18:49.840
<v Drew>set it up.

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<v Drew>And then I was like, okay, the real test

00:18:52.559 --> 00:18:55.039
<v Drew>is going to be, can I put this headset on

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<v Drew>and stream a game?

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<v Drew>out

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<v Drew>there.

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<v Drew>And when I say out there, I mean

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<v Paul>out

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<v Paul>out

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<v Drew>there.

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<v Drew>Okay.

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<v Drew>What is that experience going to look like?

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<v Drew>So

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<v Drew>It comes

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<v Drew>with

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<v Drew>a wireless adapter.

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<v Drew>And the wireless adapter is

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<v Drew>regular USB.

00:19:14.460 --> 00:19:15.580
<v Drew>It's not USB-C.

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<v Paul>Okay.

00:19:15.900 --> 00:19:16.700
<v Paul>USB-A.

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<v Paul>Okay.

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<v Drew>So I thought about this for a minute and I'm like.

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<v Paul>Gross.

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<v Drew>Well, yeah, first of all, gross.

00:19:23.640 --> 00:19:29.000
<v Drew>But I I thought, well, how is this going to have the fidelity for wireless streaming?

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<v Drew>So what I did is it it took a little bit of futzing around

00:19:33.140 --> 00:19:36.100
<v Drew>because again I have the PyMax and you have

00:19:36.260 --> 00:19:39.700
<v Drew>and like Windows can only really know about one headset.

00:19:39.980 --> 00:19:44.380
<v Drew>So if you use OpenXR, which is like the open source

00:19:44.620 --> 00:19:45.260
<v Drew>headset

00:19:45.500 --> 00:19:46.540
<v Drew>VR library

00:19:46.700 --> 00:19:48.060
<v Drew>that games can use

00:19:48.700 --> 00:19:50.460
<v Drew>Windows can only have one registered.

00:19:50.460 --> 00:19:53.740
<v Drew>So it took me a little while to figure out how to tell it like, no, no, no, use

00:19:54.060 --> 00:19:54.540
<v Drew>use this.

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<v Drew>Don't use the PyMax.

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<v Drew>I had to like

00:19:56.620 --> 00:19:58.300
<v Drew>find that setting.

00:19:58.440 --> 00:20:03.080
<v Drew>But once I found that and I had I I had to pair the wireless adapter to the headset,

00:20:03.240 --> 00:20:03.960
<v Drew>again, easy.

00:20:03.960 --> 00:20:05.720
<v Drew>It's kind of like pairing Bluetooth.

00:20:05.720 --> 00:20:08.120
<v Drew>Uh you say, hey, pair it to this wireless adapter.

00:20:08.120 --> 00:20:10.279
<v Drew>It flashes a code on your screen.

00:20:09.800 --> 00:20:14.840
<v Drew>You confirm it on your computer, you type it into the headset with the on-screen keyboard.

00:20:14.840 --> 00:20:16.360
<v Drew>Everything works.

00:20:16.360 --> 00:20:16.680
<v Drew>So

00:20:16.920 --> 00:20:17.800
<v Drew>I fired

00:20:18.120 --> 00:20:20.200
<v Drew>up my airplane game

00:20:20.360 --> 00:20:22.760
<v Drew>and I sat here in my chair.

00:20:23.419 --> 00:20:25.899
<v Drew>And I got it to show up in VR.

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<v Drew>Everything looks good.

00:20:26.940 --> 00:20:28.059
<v Drew>I'm looking around, you know.

00:20:28.460 --> 00:20:33.740
<v Drew>A little bit of lag in the cockpit, uh just because I I I still need to dial in the the quality settings and everything.

00:20:33.740 --> 00:20:36.460
<v Drew>That that'll just take a little time to mess around with.

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<v Drew>And then I got up and I walked out there.

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<v Drew>So the first thing it did is it bitched at me.

00:20:41.760 --> 00:20:43.440
<v Drew>It's like, hey, yeah, you're outside your player.

00:20:43.680 --> 00:20:44.960
<v Paul>Okay.

00:20:44.960 --> 00:20:45.280
<v Drew>But

00:20:45.560 --> 00:20:47.560
<v Drew>All I had to do was dismiss that and then boom

00:20:47.720 --> 00:20:48.440
<v Drew>game popped back

00:20:48.600 --> 00:20:48.680
<v Drew>but

00:20:48.920 --> 00:20:50.040
<v Drew>game popped back up.

00:20:50.040 --> 00:20:50.200
<v Drew>Now

00:20:50.600 --> 00:20:56.040
<v Drew>it thinks my plane's over here, so I'm I'm basically walking around my plane out there.

00:20:56.040 --> 00:20:56.920
<v Paul>Okay.

00:20:57.400 --> 00:20:58.040
<v Drew>No lag

00:20:58.200 --> 00:20:59.480
<v Drew>whatsoever.

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<v Paul>Really?

00:21:00.180 --> 00:21:01.060
<v Drew>None.

00:21:01.060 --> 00:21:01.860
<v Drew>None.

00:21:01.860 --> 00:21:07.220
<v Drew>So I walked over by my steps, which are over to that side, out of line of sight.

00:21:07.840 --> 00:21:08.160
<v Drew>And

00:21:08.400 --> 00:21:14.160
<v Drew>and in the headset, you can pull up the dashboard and you can look at the streaming thing and you can see like what the latency is.

00:21:14.160 --> 00:21:16.000
<v Drew>It was like four milliseconds

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<v Paul>That's incredible.

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<v Drew>Pretty fucking good, buddy.

00:21:19.940 --> 00:21:22.419
<v Drew>Pretty fucking good.

00:21:22.419 --> 00:21:22.740
<v Drew>So

00:21:23.460 --> 00:21:24.820
<v Drew>that's pretty neat.

00:21:24.820 --> 00:21:25.460
<v Paul>Uh-huh.

00:21:25.640 --> 00:21:26.280
<v Drew>Okay.

00:21:26.280 --> 00:21:29.000
<v Drew>Now before I talk about stage two.

00:21:29.000 --> 00:21:29.880
<v Paul>Oh, okay.

00:21:29.880 --> 00:21:30.600
<v Paul>Okay.

00:21:31.000 --> 00:21:31.320
<v Drew>Um

00:21:32.040 --> 00:21:36.600
<v Drew>the last thing I want to talk about is, oh, what was I going to say now?

00:21:36.600 --> 00:21:38.120
<v Drew>I can't remember.

00:21:38.280 --> 00:21:39.240
<v Drew>Shoot.

00:21:40.040 --> 00:21:44.520
<v Drew>I forget what I was gonna say about the I there was one other thing I needed to talk about

00:21:45.919 --> 00:21:47.760
<v Drew>Oh, uh the see-through method.

00:21:47.760 --> 00:21:47.919
<v Drew>So

00:21:48.080 --> 00:21:50.559
<v Drew>it has cameras on the front, so you can see.

00:21:50.799 --> 00:21:52.080
<v Drew>It's a very simple toggle.

00:21:52.320 --> 00:21:54.480
<v Paul>And you bought that color one too, you can set up on the top

00:21:54.880 --> 00:21:55.280
<v Paul>you didn't okay.

00:21:55.440 --> 00:21:55.760
<v Paul>I didn't.

00:21:55.760 --> 00:21:57.120
<v Drew>I wanted to see what it was like without it.

00:21:57.120 --> 00:21:57.200
<v Drew>And

00:21:57.360 --> 00:21:57.919
<v Drew>and Frank.

00:21:58.080 --> 00:21:59.200
<v Paul>So it's black and white

00:21:59.160 --> 00:21:59.960
<v Paul>By default, right?

00:22:00.280 --> 00:22:01.560
<v Drew>Well, first of all, you can tin

00:22:01.720 --> 00:22:02.680
<v Drew>it any color you want.

00:22:02.680 --> 00:22:03.240
<v Paul>Oh, okay.

00:22:03.240 --> 00:22:03.720
<v Paul>Okay.

00:22:03.720 --> 00:22:08.840
<v Drew>So out of the box it's kind of like that valve, kind of like the Steam OS, like

00:22:09.000 --> 00:22:10.200
<v Drew>grayish blue.

00:22:10.200 --> 00:22:11.080
<v Drew>Okay.

00:22:10.760 --> 00:22:12.200
<v Drew>It's pretty cool.

00:22:12.600 --> 00:22:15.400
<v Drew>It's very responsive and not laggy at all.

00:22:15.720 --> 00:22:21.799
<v Drew>And what I was really interested to see, because I I had to keep going back and forth to get it to work the first time

00:22:22.500 --> 00:22:24.419
<v Drew>And I was able to do pass-through

00:22:24.580 --> 00:22:26.980
<v Drew>mode and still read what was on my monitor.

00:22:28.660 --> 00:22:29.059
<v Paul>Incredible.

00:22:29.380 --> 00:22:32.100
<v Drew>I just have a LED monitor.

00:22:31.840 --> 00:22:35.280
<v Drew>I don't have LCD, I don't have plasma, I don't have mini OLED or anything like that.

00:22:35.280 --> 00:22:37.039
<v Drew>This is just a regular LED monitor.

00:22:37.039 --> 00:22:38.320
<v Drew>I was actually able to see my

00:22:38.559 --> 00:22:40.000
<v Drew>mouse cursor and move it around.

00:22:40.000 --> 00:22:41.440
<v Drew>Could I read fine text with it?

00:22:41.440 --> 00:22:42.960
<v Drew>No, absolutely not.

00:22:42.660 --> 00:22:44.820
<v Drew>But I could see what was happening on my monitor

00:22:44.980 --> 00:22:46.340
<v Drew>and I was able to like

00:22:46.500 --> 00:22:52.740
<v Drew>go into pass-through mode and like walk out there so I don't walk into a wall and then seamlessly flip back to the game.

00:22:52.740 --> 00:22:53.220
<v Drew>It was

00:22:53.380 --> 00:22:53.540
<v Drew>uh

00:22:54.340 --> 00:22:54.900
<v Drew>beautiful.

00:22:54.900 --> 00:22:57.460
<v Drew>It worked exactly the way I wanted it to work.

00:22:58.000 --> 00:23:00.799
<v Drew>Okay.

00:23:00.799 --> 00:23:02.240
<v Drew>That was the big test.

00:23:02.480 --> 00:23:04.480
<v Drew>First of all, whether or not I was going to keep it,

00:23:04.880 --> 00:23:05.760
<v Drew>page, you know,

00:23:06.159 --> 00:23:06.320
<v Drew>part

00:23:06.559 --> 00:23:06.799
<v Drew>one

00:23:07.120 --> 00:23:07.360
<v Drew>was

00:23:07.519 --> 00:23:09.360
<v Drew>does that work as advertised so far?

00:23:09.360 --> 00:23:09.919
<v Drew>Yes.

00:23:09.919 --> 00:23:10.880
<v Paul>Okay.

00:23:11.360 --> 00:23:13.840
<v Drew>Now we can move.

00:23:13.840 --> 00:23:15.200
<v Drew>What was that?

00:23:16.880 --> 00:23:17.840
<v Drew>What was that noise?

00:23:17.840 --> 00:23:18.960
<v Drew>Oh, somebody messaged me on Facebook.

00:23:19.040 --> 00:23:21.040
<v Drew>I'm trying to sell something on Facebook Marketplace.

00:23:22.160 --> 00:23:23.440
<v Drew>I don't want to talk about it.

00:23:23.600 --> 00:23:24.560
<v Paul>Okay.

00:23:25.060 --> 00:23:28.180
<v Drew>So now we're ready to move to phase two.

00:23:28.180 --> 00:23:31.860
<v Drew>And that is I'm ready to build my simrig.

00:23:32.440 --> 00:23:34.760
<v Paul>Oh, that's right, because the whole point of this is you don't want to have all the

00:23:35.000 --> 00:23:35.240
<v Paul>you want to

00:23:35.399 --> 00:23:35.559
<v Paul>be ab

00:23:35.720 --> 00:23:36.760
<v Paul>put the rig in a place where

00:23:37.799 --> 00:23:39.960
<v Paul>you can show up on camera, but still be able to play the game

00:23:40.120 --> 00:23:40.279
<v Paul>while

00:23:40.519 --> 00:23:40.760
<v Paul>yeah.

00:23:40.760 --> 00:23:41.159
<v Paul>Okay.

00:23:41.159 --> 00:23:41.559
<v Drew>So so

00:23:41.720 --> 00:23:42.200
<v Drew>really if

00:23:42.360 --> 00:23:45.080
<v Drew>if I want to do this, I have two choices.

00:23:44.460 --> 00:23:47.660
<v Drew>The first choice is I take one of my desks, either

00:23:47.820 --> 00:23:48.140
<v Drew>most

00:23:48.300 --> 00:23:51.980
<v Drew>more than likely my work desk, because it doesn't have as many cables.

00:23:51.980 --> 00:23:54.140
<v Drew>It's really only for my work computer.

00:23:54.140 --> 00:23:56.220
<v Drew>I can still be on camera.

00:23:56.160 --> 00:23:56.640
<v Paul>Yeah.

00:23:56.640 --> 00:23:58.800
<v Drew>On that, and I can have that out there.

00:23:58.800 --> 00:23:59.680
<v Drew>That's not a problem.

00:23:59.680 --> 00:24:03.120
<v Drew>But I don't want to totally clutter up the the outside there, which

00:24:03.520 --> 00:24:05.280
<v Drew>that's gonna happen with plan

00:24:05.520 --> 00:24:06.160
<v Drew>B, but

00:24:06.640 --> 00:24:09.440
<v Drew>I don't have enough room in here to really do it right.

00:24:10.160 --> 00:24:12.560
<v Drew>Unless I'm willing to give up one of my desk, which I don't think I am.

00:24:12.560 --> 00:24:15.280
<v Drew>I like having this room to be work and play.

00:24:15.280 --> 00:24:16.400
<v Paul>Okay.

00:24:16.400 --> 00:24:16.720
<v Drew>So

00:24:17.700 --> 00:24:24.020
<v Drew>Now that I have the steam frame and it's wireless, I can just build all that out there where I have a little bit more room

00:24:24.260 --> 00:24:25.540
<v Drew>and then just have

00:24:25.780 --> 00:24:26.340
<v Drew>it.

00:24:26.340 --> 00:24:27.060
<v Paul>Okay.

00:24:27.060 --> 00:24:27.940
<v Drew>Okay.

00:24:27.940 --> 00:24:28.180
<v Drew>So

00:24:28.340 --> 00:24:29.940
<v Drew>I had to find

00:24:30.960 --> 00:24:34.560
<v Drew>an actual cockpit to house the equipment that I wanted.

00:24:34.560 --> 00:24:34.880
<v Paul>Okay.

00:24:34.880 --> 00:24:35.600
<v Paul>Here we go.

00:24:35.600 --> 00:24:36.640
<v Drew>So let's let's start there.

00:24:36.640 --> 00:24:36.880
<v Paul>Okay.

00:24:36.880 --> 00:24:37.280
<v Paul>Okay.

00:24:37.280 --> 00:24:38.400
<v Drew>So I found a company

00:24:39.040 --> 00:24:42.000
<v Drew>that came recommended to me and it's called Simfab.

00:24:42.000 --> 00:24:43.600
<v Drew>I'm going to go ahead and drop a

00:24:44.140 --> 00:24:48.620
<v Drew>I'm gonna drop a link into the show notes here.

00:24:48.620 --> 00:24:51.260
<v Drew>And let me know what image you see when it pops up.

00:24:51.260 --> 00:24:52.700
<v Paul>Okay, let's see.

00:24:52.980 --> 00:24:53.860
<v Paul>Oh, oh

00:24:54.020 --> 00:24:54.580
<v Paul>wow.

00:24:54.580 --> 00:24:55.140
<v Paul>There's

00:24:55.460 --> 00:24:56.420
<v Paul>a lot of

00:24:56.740 --> 00:24:57.620
<v Paul>arms.

00:24:57.620 --> 00:24:58.180
<v Paul>That's

00:24:58.820 --> 00:24:59.380
<v Paul>that's

00:24:59.620 --> 00:25:00.660
<v Paul>that's a

00:25:00.820 --> 00:25:03.140
<v Paul>irresponsible amount of buttons.

00:25:03.419 --> 00:25:04.140
<v Drew>All right.

00:25:04.140 --> 00:25:04.380
<v Drew>So

00:25:04.539 --> 00:25:06.140
<v Drew>here's the deal with SimFab.

00:25:06.140 --> 00:25:09.100
<v Drew>They are an extremely modular setup.

00:25:09.100 --> 00:25:10.059
<v Paul>Yeah, no shit.

00:25:10.059 --> 00:25:10.140
<v Paul>Oh

00:25:10.700 --> 00:25:11.260
<v Paul>yeah

00:25:11.320 --> 00:25:13.160
<v Drew>You basically decide

00:25:13.480 --> 00:25:15.240
<v Drew>what am I building this for

00:25:15.400 --> 00:25:17.480
<v Drew>and what hardware do I need.

00:25:17.480 --> 00:25:17.720
<v Drew>So

00:25:18.280 --> 00:25:18.600
<v Drew>play

00:25:18.760 --> 00:25:19.720
<v Drew>play with me for a second.

00:25:19.720 --> 00:25:22.280
<v Drew>So if you go up to the top menu, you go to Flight Sim.

00:25:22.220 --> 00:25:23.420
<v Drew>You're gonna go to DCS

00:25:23.580 --> 00:25:23.740
<v Drew>sim

00:25:24.140 --> 00:25:25.500
<v Drew>modular cockpit.

00:25:25.500 --> 00:25:26.220
<v Paul>Alright, DCS

00:25:26.540 --> 00:25:27.260
<v Paul>that's the first one there.

00:25:27.820 --> 00:25:28.540
<v Drew>The very first one.

00:25:28.540 --> 00:25:28.860
<v Paul>Yep.

00:25:28.860 --> 00:25:29.340
<v Paul>Yep.

00:25:29.340 --> 00:25:30.140
<v Paul>Yeah, that's

00:25:31.240 --> 00:25:33.160
<v Paul>That's a lot of buttons, Drew.

00:25:33.160 --> 00:25:36.360
<v Drew>Well, I want to see what actually pops up on the screen there.

00:25:36.360 --> 00:25:37.000
<v Paul>Okay, so first

00:25:37.160 --> 00:25:39.000
<v Paul>I just see the cockpit.

00:25:39.480 --> 00:25:40.200
<v Paul>It's just a

00:25:40.360 --> 00:25:43.000
<v Paul>it looks like a gamer chair.

00:25:43.400 --> 00:25:46.120
<v Paul>And it's got like a the the little like foot base

00:25:46.360 --> 00:25:46.440
<v Paul>for

00:25:46.600 --> 00:25:48.200
<v Paul>obviously for like rudder pedals and

00:25:48.940 --> 00:25:51.100
<v Paul>Mm and some mounting points on the side

00:25:51.260 --> 00:25:51.580
<v Paul>and look

00:25:51.820 --> 00:25:54.460
<v Paul>looks like there's a crotch mounting point as well.

00:25:54.460 --> 00:25:54.940
<v Drew>Correct.

00:25:54.940 --> 00:25:55.340
<v Paul>Okay.

00:25:55.340 --> 00:25:55.740
<v Drew>All right.

00:25:55.740 --> 00:25:57.100
<v Drew>So first things first.

00:25:57.100 --> 00:25:57.899
<v Drew>Yes.

00:25:57.919 --> 00:25:58.240
<v Drew>I

00:25:58.400 --> 00:25:58.640
<v Drew>I

00:25:58.960 --> 00:26:02.640
<v Drew>this chair comes with everything you need to mount your

00:26:03.280 --> 00:26:03.600
<v Drew>your

00:26:03.760 --> 00:26:06.160
<v Drew>flight control, so your throttle.

00:26:06.140 --> 00:26:06.220
<v Drew>your

00:26:06.540 --> 00:26:08.540
<v Drew>Hotez, you know, whatever.

00:26:08.540 --> 00:26:11.500
<v Drew>You can mount it in the center, you can mount it off to the side.

00:26:11.500 --> 00:26:15.100
<v Drew>There is a base plate for you to place your rudder pedals.

00:26:15.360 --> 00:26:22.320
<v Drew>And the nice thing about this company is they're like, look, we know what the most popular brands of stuff is, so we pre-drill

00:26:22.639 --> 00:26:24.159
<v Drew>all the holes.

00:26:24.320 --> 00:26:24.640
<v Drew>for

00:26:24.880 --> 00:26:26.560
<v Drew>most of the most common

00:26:27.440 --> 00:26:29.040
<v Drew>sticks and rudder pedals.

00:26:29.040 --> 00:26:35.040
<v Drew>And if you scroll down, you can actually buy add-on plates and it shows you like if you have this, buy this other add-on plate.

00:26:35.040 --> 00:26:38.960
<v Drew>It's like an extra twenty bucks for a piece of steel or aluminum or whatever.

00:26:38.660 --> 00:26:41.060
<v Drew>With all the stuff pre-drilled in it.

00:26:41.060 --> 00:26:41.300
<v Drew>So

00:26:41.460 --> 00:26:42.980
<v Drew>I could just buy this,

00:26:43.540 --> 00:26:46.100
<v Drew>pair that with my headset, and I am off to the races.

00:26:46.100 --> 00:26:50.340
<v Drew>The only thing this doesn't have that it doesn't come with is it doesn't come with a keyboard and mouse tray.

00:26:50.340 --> 00:26:50.500
<v Paul>Okay

00:26:50.840 --> 00:26:51.080
<v Drew>If you

00:26:51.480 --> 00:26:53.080
<v Paul>clearly you can buy those.

00:26:53.080 --> 00:26:56.200
<v Drew>Yeah, so if you if you click on the second picture here,

00:26:56.679 --> 00:26:59.799
<v Drew>you can see that they make this articulating arm.

00:26:59.560 --> 00:27:03.480
<v Drew>That can h that can hold like a drink, a keyboard, and a mouse.

00:27:03.480 --> 00:27:04.040
<v Paul>Yeah.

00:27:04.040 --> 00:27:05.240
<v Drew>I didn't buy that yet.

00:27:05.240 --> 00:27:09.000
<v Drew>I want to see how it goes first before I make that extra.

00:27:09.000 --> 00:27:11.720
<v Drew>That's like an extra $300, by the way.

00:27:11.540 --> 00:27:12.020
<v Paul>Wow.

00:27:12.020 --> 00:27:13.060
<v Drew>Yeah, so like I I

00:27:13.220 --> 00:27:15.780
<v Drew>was like, eh, let's hold off on that.

00:27:15.780 --> 00:27:18.260
<v Drew>Okay, so that's the base thing.

00:27:18.260 --> 00:27:18.980
<v Paul>Okay.

00:27:18.980 --> 00:27:20.580
<v Drew>But I didn't stop there.

00:27:25.120 --> 00:27:27.040
<v Drew>So if you go back to the flight sim

00:27:28.160 --> 00:27:28.800
<v Drew>menu

00:27:29.080 --> 00:27:29.400
<v Paul>Okay.

00:27:29.400 --> 00:27:31.160
<v Drew>On the right hand side, there is flight sim

00:27:31.480 --> 00:27:31.800
<v Drew>add-on

00:27:31.960 --> 00:27:32.840
<v Drew>modules.

00:27:33.080 --> 00:27:34.520
<v Paul>There we go.

00:27:34.520 --> 00:27:35.400
<v Paul>Yeah.

00:27:35.400 --> 00:27:35.560
<v Paul>Now

00:27:35.880 --> 00:27:37.400
<v Paul>again we're looking at that picture of

00:27:37.660 --> 00:27:38.860
<v Paul>All the different plates.

00:27:38.860 --> 00:27:39.500
<v Paul>Oh my goodness.

00:27:39.580 --> 00:27:39.820
<v Paul>Okay.

00:27:39.820 --> 00:27:39.900
<v Paul>So

00:27:40.220 --> 00:27:40.620
<v Paul>here we go.

00:27:40.620 --> 00:27:41.180
<v Paul>Here's where you can

00:27:41.340 --> 00:27:41.980
<v Paul>start buying them.

00:27:41.980 --> 00:27:42.220
<v Paul>Yep.

00:27:42.220 --> 00:27:42.380
<v Paul>Yeah.

00:27:42.620 --> 00:27:42.860
<v Drew>Right.

00:27:42.860 --> 00:27:43.580
<v Drew>So this is

00:27:43.740 --> 00:27:45.980
<v Drew>so depending on other panels you have

00:27:46.140 --> 00:27:50.620
<v Drew>or what you want to do, it's like, hey, these are the other things you need to get.

00:27:50.800 --> 00:27:51.040
<v Drew>So

00:27:51.200 --> 00:27:54.560
<v Drew>if you're scrolling through here, you'll see that there's monitor stands.

00:27:55.120 --> 00:27:57.120
<v Drew>There are universal adapters.

00:27:57.120 --> 00:27:58.000
<v Drew>There is a

00:27:58.160 --> 00:27:58.480
<v Drew>uh

00:27:59.240 --> 00:27:59.320
<v Drew>Uh

00:27:59.560 --> 00:28:00.280
<v Drew>Simfab

00:28:00.440 --> 00:28:01.000
<v Drew>RetroFat

00:28:01.160 --> 00:28:05.320
<v Drew>seat adapter where you can raise the seat up and turn it into a racing sim

00:28:05.560 --> 00:28:06.040
<v Drew>session.

00:28:06.040 --> 00:28:09.160
<v Drew>There's all kinds of spacers and all sorts of things, right?

00:28:10.200 --> 00:28:10.520
<v Drew>So

00:28:11.500 --> 00:28:12.940
<v Drew>What I need is

00:28:13.340 --> 00:28:14.299
<v Drew>I I I

00:28:14.620 --> 00:28:16.140
<v Drew>I want to buy some panels.

00:28:16.140 --> 00:28:17.500
<v Drew>I don't just want the sticks.

00:28:17.500 --> 00:28:18.940
<v Drew>I want some panels.

00:28:18.940 --> 00:28:19.260
<v Drew>Because

00:28:19.419 --> 00:28:24.940
<v Drew>otherwise I am going to have to rely on the keyboard and mouse a lot to do things, which is a little bit awkward.

00:28:25.260 --> 00:28:30.620
<v Drew>So before we talk about what I had to buy, let's talk about why I had to buy them.

00:28:30.620 --> 00:28:31.340
<v Paul>Okay.

00:28:31.340 --> 00:28:32.539
<v Drew>Alright.

00:28:32.539 --> 00:28:32.780
<v Drew>So

00:28:33.020 --> 00:28:37.580
<v Drew>first things first, this was the main other purchase that I made.

00:28:37.580 --> 00:28:38.140
<v Paul>Let's see what

00:28:38.299 --> 00:28:40.059
<v Paul>do we got here?

00:28:40.000 --> 00:28:42.720
<v Paul>Well.

00:28:42.720 --> 00:28:43.919
<v Paul>Okay.

00:28:43.919 --> 00:28:44.640
<v Paul>Legend

00:28:45.280 --> 00:28:47.039
<v Paul>MIP or is that MIP?

00:28:47.280 --> 00:28:48.000
<v Drew>Either one.

00:28:48.000 --> 00:28:48.640
<v Paul>Okay.

00:28:48.640 --> 00:28:49.600
<v Paul>That's okay.

00:28:49.600 --> 00:28:51.600
<v Paul>So it looks like it's got

00:28:52.640 --> 00:28:54.240
<v Paul>Two screens?

00:28:54.240 --> 00:28:54.800
<v Drew>Three.

00:28:54.800 --> 00:28:56.160
<v Paul>Okay, oh is that on the left or

00:28:56.320 --> 00:28:57.040
<v Paul>is that also a screen?

00:28:57.120 --> 00:28:57.440
<v Drew>Uh huh.

00:28:57.440 --> 00:28:58.160
<v Paul>Okay.

00:28:58.720 --> 00:28:59.840
<v Paul>Three screens

00:29:00.120 --> 00:29:00.760
<v Paul>And then

00:29:01.320 --> 00:29:05.960
<v Paul>a little panel with some buttons, unmarked buttons on them.

00:29:05.960 --> 00:29:06.840
<v Drew>No, they're marked.

00:29:06.840 --> 00:29:07.240
<v Drew>Aren't they marked?

00:29:08.120 --> 00:29:10.600
<v Drew>If you click the ICP panel, you'll see that they're marked.

00:29:10.600 --> 00:29:10.920
<v Paul>Okay.

00:29:11.080 --> 00:29:11.400
<v Paul>Okay.

00:29:11.400 --> 00:29:11.640
<v Paul>Yep.

00:29:11.640 --> 00:29:11.880
<v Paul>Yep.

00:29:11.880 --> 00:29:12.360
<v Paul>They are.

00:29:12.360 --> 00:29:13.160
<v Drew>And they light up.

00:29:13.160 --> 00:29:14.680
<v Paul>They light up.

00:29:14.240 --> 00:29:14.800
<v Paul>Of course.

00:29:14.800 --> 00:29:15.520
<v Paul>Oh yeah, I d

00:29:15.680 --> 00:29:18.560
<v Paul>when it when you see it with all the the the things on there

00:29:18.800 --> 00:29:20.000
<v Paul>and uh the lights.

00:29:20.000 --> 00:29:21.520
<v Paul>Yeah that's that's uh that's something

00:29:21.680 --> 00:29:22.000
<v Paul>else.

00:29:22.000 --> 00:29:24.320
<v Paul>You got some you got some knobs to turn to it looks like

00:29:28.800 --> 00:29:28.880
<v Drew>this.

00:29:28.820 --> 00:29:29.460
<v Drew>Okay, so

00:29:29.780 --> 00:29:32.420
<v Drew>this thing actually serves two purposes

00:29:32.740 --> 00:29:33.060
<v Drew>because

00:29:33.540 --> 00:29:35.860
<v Drew>it's actually two products in one.

00:29:35.860 --> 00:29:36.180
<v Drew>The first

00:29:36.340 --> 00:29:39.220
<v Drew>the first thing it is, is it's those three screens.

00:29:39.160 --> 00:29:42.040
<v Drew>And then there's that thing that says Navy Ace

00:29:42.200 --> 00:29:43.160
<v Drew>and then wind control

00:29:43.400 --> 00:29:44.440
<v Drew>carrier ace.

00:29:44.440 --> 00:29:45.080
<v Paul>Yeah.

00:29:45.080 --> 00:29:45.400
<v Drew>So

00:29:45.720 --> 00:29:47.000
<v Drew>what this is, is

00:29:47.160 --> 00:29:51.160
<v Drew>this is the upfront controls for the FA18C Hornet.

00:29:51.240 --> 00:29:51.800
<v Paul>Okay.

00:29:51.800 --> 00:29:55.720
<v Drew>So when you're in the simulator, you're actually looking at this.

00:29:55.720 --> 00:29:56.200
<v Paul>Okay.

00:29:56.200 --> 00:30:04.760
<v Drew>So you have that keypad, you have all of those things that light up, you have those three screens which show things like radar, navigation, weapon status

00:30:05.200 --> 00:30:05.440
<v Drew>uh

00:30:05.600 --> 00:30:09.440
<v Drew>radar warning control, fire control system, stores

00:30:09.600 --> 00:30:10.480
<v Drew>configuration, like

00:30:10.640 --> 00:30:14.000
<v Drew>all those panels do things and all those buttons do things.

00:30:13.940 --> 00:30:17.620
<v Drew>Now without this, you're on your mouse a lot and you're kind of clicking through things.

00:30:17.620 --> 00:30:22.659
<v Drew>You're taking your hands off the controls to you know fuss with your mouse, get the cursor to show up and do everything.

00:30:23.019 --> 00:30:26.539
<v Drew>So the nice thing about this is this is putting everything in front of you.

00:30:26.539 --> 00:30:31.659
<v Drew>So when I'm in the simulator, if I want to click the third button down

00:30:31.980 --> 00:30:32.460
<v Drew>on the

00:30:32.620 --> 00:30:34.059
<v Drew>on the right MCP,

00:30:34.220 --> 00:30:37.500
<v Drew>the right screen, because all those little gray things are buttons.

00:30:37.419 --> 00:30:39.500
<v Drew>I could just reach out and do it.

00:30:39.500 --> 00:30:43.900
<v Drew>Or if I need to use the upfront controls, which is like that numeric telephone keypad

00:30:44.059 --> 00:30:45.900
<v Drew>thing, I could just reach out and do it

00:30:46.480 --> 00:30:47.120
<v Drew>Okay.

00:30:47.360 --> 00:30:49.120
<v Drew>And they're active displays.

00:30:49.120 --> 00:30:54.160
<v Drew>So whether I'm in VR or not, those are actually showing what I would be seeing in the cockpit.

00:30:54.160 --> 00:30:54.640
<v Paul>Okay.

00:30:54.840 --> 00:30:55.559
<v Drew>All right.

00:30:55.559 --> 00:30:55.880
<v Drew>Now

00:30:56.120 --> 00:30:58.200
<v Drew>what makes this a little more expensive

00:30:58.360 --> 00:30:59.799
<v Drew>because they actually just sell

00:30:59.960 --> 00:31:01.240
<v Drew>a uh carrier ace

00:31:01.400 --> 00:31:04.039
<v Drew>MIP, it doesn't come with that ICP.

00:31:04.039 --> 00:31:06.280
<v Drew>So that ICP panel is actually for

00:31:06.440 --> 00:31:07.880
<v Drew>is actually for the F-16.

00:31:07.880 --> 00:31:09.559
<v Drew>Now I fly both aircraft.

00:31:09.840 --> 00:31:10.159
<v Drew>So

00:31:10.480 --> 00:31:15.039
<v Drew>rather than swapping out everything, this sort of just clips on the front, and I can sw

00:31:15.279 --> 00:31:17.840
<v Drew>I can easily swap between an F16 and F

00:31:18.240 --> 00:31:21.440
<v Drew>FA18 configuration just by taking that panel off and off.

00:31:21.440 --> 00:31:21.760
<v Paul>Okay.

00:31:21.760 --> 00:31:22.320
<v Paul>Okay.

00:31:22.519 --> 00:31:23.080
<v Drew>Right.

00:31:23.080 --> 00:31:23.240
<v Drew>So

00:31:23.399 --> 00:31:24.519
<v Drew>what do you use that for?

00:31:24.519 --> 00:31:27.480
<v Drew>So you those those upfront controls are really important like

00:31:27.720 --> 00:31:29.559
<v Drew>when you're doing navigation

00:31:29.799 --> 00:31:33.720
<v Drew>or you need to mark a point for like a bomb drop or something.

00:31:33.720 --> 00:31:34.519
<v Drew>Again.

00:31:34.460 --> 00:31:36.860
<v Drew>It's really awkward to do when you're flying

00:31:37.180 --> 00:31:37.500
<v Drew>because

00:31:37.900 --> 00:31:41.340
<v Drew>without this, I have to take both hands off of

00:31:41.660 --> 00:31:44.780
<v Drew>I have to take my hand off the thing that actually flies the airplane.

00:31:44.860 --> 00:31:45.260
<v Drew>Because I

00:31:45.419 --> 00:31:46.620
<v Drew>because that's where my mouse is.

00:31:46.620 --> 00:31:49.500
<v Drew>In a perfect world, I would keep one hand on flying the airplane

00:31:49.659 --> 00:31:56.539
<v Drew>and I would use my left hand to interact with this panel to make the adjustments or change settings or do whatever.

00:31:57.040 --> 00:31:57.280
<v Drew>So

00:31:57.440 --> 00:32:01.120
<v Drew>what's nice about that is if you flip back to the Flight Sim

00:32:01.520 --> 00:32:03.440
<v Drew>add-on, that main

00:32:03.760 --> 00:32:04.800
<v Drew>instrument panel

00:32:05.040 --> 00:32:05.440
<v Drew>add-on

00:32:05.600 --> 00:32:06.880
<v Drew>is what I needed to buy.

00:32:06.880 --> 00:32:07.280
<v Paul>Okay.

00:32:07.640 --> 00:32:07.880
<v Drew>So

00:32:08.040 --> 00:32:09.160
<v Drew>that Flight SIM

00:32:09.320 --> 00:32:11.240
<v Drew>number 12 MFD holder bracket

00:32:11.400 --> 00:32:19.640
<v Drew>kit, if you click on that, it actually tells you that it's, you know, compatible with Win-Wing MIP bezels and all that other stuff.

00:32:19.540 --> 00:32:20.100
<v Paul>Yeah.

00:32:20.100 --> 00:32:21.140
<v Drew>So it's made for that.

00:32:21.140 --> 00:32:21.380
<v Drew>It

00:32:21.540 --> 00:32:23.380
<v Drew>actually shows you a picture of that on there.

00:32:23.380 --> 00:32:23.460
<v Paul>It

00:32:23.620 --> 00:32:24.260
<v Paul>sure does.

00:32:24.260 --> 00:32:25.540
<v Paul>Yep.

00:32:25.540 --> 00:32:26.420
<v Drew>Yep.

00:32:26.900 --> 00:32:28.740
<v Drew>So that's that's where that goes.

00:32:28.740 --> 00:32:29.300
<v Paul>Okay.

00:32:29.300 --> 00:32:30.180
<v Drew>So that that down

00:32:30.340 --> 00:32:32.100
<v Drew>that now gets mounted on there.

00:32:32.100 --> 00:32:34.260
<v Drew>But I didn't stop there.

00:32:34.019 --> 00:32:36.500
<v Drew>So the other thing that I bought is I bought this

00:32:36.659 --> 00:32:40.419
<v Drew>because again, this is just one less thing I have to rely on a keyboard for

00:32:41.380 --> 00:32:44.260
<v Drew>is the PTO panel of takeoff.

00:32:43.960 --> 00:32:45.480
<v Drew>Panel of takeoff, PTO.

00:32:46.200 --> 00:32:47.720
<v Drew>This is a very Chinese company.

00:32:47.720 --> 00:32:48.440
<v Paul>Okay.

00:32:49.400 --> 00:32:50.280
<v Paul>Okay.

00:32:50.280 --> 00:32:51.560
<v Paul>Ooh, that's got like a

00:32:51.720 --> 00:32:53.480
<v Paul>is that a big red button?

00:32:53.360 --> 00:32:53.840
<v Drew>Well, it's a bit

00:32:54.000 --> 00:32:54.720
<v Drew>it's a big red lever.

00:32:54.720 --> 00:32:54.880
<v Drew>That's

00:32:55.039 --> 00:32:55.039
<v Drew>a good thing.

00:32:55.200 --> 00:32:56.000
<v Paul>Big red lever.

00:32:56.000 --> 00:32:56.559
<v Paul>Okay, okay.

00:32:56.559 --> 00:33:00.000
<v Drew>Landing gear, emergency brake controls, flap controls, jettison

00:33:00.159 --> 00:33:02.880
<v Drew>controls, tail hooks for landing on carriers.

00:33:03.140 --> 00:33:05.460
<v Drew>Yeah, all of that gets managed from there.

00:33:05.460 --> 00:33:05.780
<v Paul>Okay.

00:33:05.780 --> 00:33:08.340
<v Drew>And again, if you if you flip back to the sim

00:33:08.660 --> 00:33:10.580
<v Drew>fab page and you scroll down and you're like

00:33:10.740 --> 00:33:11.300
<v Drew>flight sim

00:33:11.780 --> 00:33:13.300
<v Drew>uh 10 left or right

00:33:13.460 --> 00:33:14.500
<v Drew>vertical.

00:33:14.540 --> 00:33:16.220
<v Drew>That's the other piece I want.

00:33:16.540 --> 00:33:17.100
<v Paul>Okay.

00:33:17.100 --> 00:33:17.660
<v Paul>Okay.

00:33:17.660 --> 00:33:21.740
<v Drew>And then that just clips onto the base, and now I have that panel right there too.

00:33:21.740 --> 00:33:26.700
<v Drew>So at the end of the day, I'm gonna have the upfront panels, I'm gonna have that other panel on the side.

00:33:26.640 --> 00:33:28.240
<v Drew>And I'm gonna have um

00:33:28.560 --> 00:33:29.360
<v Drew>my controls

00:33:29.520 --> 00:33:30.480
<v Drew>all mounted to it.

00:33:30.480 --> 00:33:31.120
<v Drew>So that'll be

00:33:31.280 --> 00:33:32.720
<v Drew>that'll be really fun.

00:33:32.960 --> 00:33:33.440
<v Drew>Yep.

00:33:33.440 --> 00:33:35.200
<v Drew>Now it's on wheels so I can move it around with

00:33:35.360 --> 00:33:36.080
<v Drew>kind of easy.

00:33:36.080 --> 00:33:36.560
<v Paul>Okay.

00:33:36.560 --> 00:33:36.720
<v Drew>Um

00:33:36.880 --> 00:33:37.200
<v Drew>it will

00:33:37.360 --> 00:33:40.800
<v Drew>it will probably not fit through my office door once it is built.

00:33:41.440 --> 00:33:41.519
<v Drew>It

00:33:41.919 --> 00:33:42.720
<v Drew>I think it'll be close.

00:33:42.720 --> 00:33:43.440
<v Drew>I think it'll be close.

00:33:43.440 --> 00:33:46.799
<v Drew>If if that side thing is on it, I don't think it I don't think it'll work.

00:33:46.799 --> 00:33:49.440
<v Drew>But I I mean that looks like it's gonna be pretty easy to take off.

00:33:49.440 --> 00:33:49.679
<v Paul>Yeah.

00:33:49.679 --> 00:33:51.039
<v Paul>Yeah, it looks like it's just a couple.

00:33:51.039 --> 00:33:51.600
<v Paul>Yeah.

00:33:51.600 --> 00:33:52.000
<v Drew>Okay.

00:33:52.000 --> 00:33:54.080
<v Drew>So now let's talk about logistics

00:33:53.840 --> 00:33:56.400
<v Drew>So obviously all this stuff's gonna show up at some point.

00:33:56.880 --> 00:33:57.120
<v Drew>So

00:33:57.280 --> 00:33:57.520
<v Drew>now

00:33:57.679 --> 00:34:02.559
<v Drew>the final piece of the puzzle, and this goes back to what we were talking about at the beginning of the show.

00:34:02.720 --> 00:34:05.040
<v Drew>My computer's gonna stay in here.

00:34:05.040 --> 00:34:05.680
<v Paul>Okay.

00:34:05.680 --> 00:34:09.280
<v Drew>So I need a way to have USB communication

00:34:10.000 --> 00:34:12.880
<v Drew>for all this shit to come back to the computer.

00:34:13.659 --> 00:34:15.260
<v Drew>So I was doing a little research.

00:34:15.580 --> 00:34:15.820
<v Drew>So

00:34:15.980 --> 00:34:19.020
<v Drew>there is a maximum run length of USB.

00:34:19.020 --> 00:34:19.580
<v Paul>Mm-hmm.

00:34:19.820 --> 00:34:22.780
<v Drew>Now powered gets you a little bit more, but I'm gonna need

00:34:23.340 --> 00:34:24.940
<v Drew>I'm gonna need some distance.

00:34:24.940 --> 00:34:25.419
<v Paul>Yeah.

00:34:25.419 --> 00:34:27.980
<v Paul>Mm-hmm.

00:34:27.900 --> 00:34:28.220
<v Drew>So

00:34:28.540 --> 00:34:30.220
<v Drew>I found this.

00:34:30.220 --> 00:34:31.180
<v Paul>Okay.

00:34:32.300 --> 00:34:34.060
<v Drew>And I didn't buy it yet.

00:34:34.060 --> 00:34:34.300
<v Paul>Okay.

00:34:34.460 --> 00:34:36.540
<v Drew>Because I'm I'm I'm still doing research.

00:34:36.540 --> 00:34:37.900
<v Drew>But have you seen these?

00:34:38.380 --> 00:34:38.780
<v Paul>USB

00:34:39.100 --> 00:34:39.500
<v Paul>standard

00:34:39.740 --> 00:34:40.140
<v Paul>ports.

00:34:40.140 --> 00:34:41.260
<v Paul>Hold on.

00:34:42.079 --> 00:34:42.240
<v Paul>Okay

00:34:42.399 --> 00:34:42.480
<v Paul>,

00:34:43.359 --> 00:34:46.320
<v Paul>I was gonna ask before you showed me this.

00:34:46.320 --> 00:34:50.159
<v Paul>I was like, are you considering doing USB over Ethernet?

00:34:50.159 --> 00:34:51.040
<v Drew>Yes.

00:34:51.420 --> 00:34:53.980
<v Paul>And that's exactly what you just dropped in the into the

00:34:54.300 --> 00:34:54.540
<v Drew>Yes.

00:34:54.940 --> 00:34:57.580
<v Drew>So what this is, is this is a box that

00:34:58.220 --> 00:34:59.420
<v Drew>it's almost like

00:34:59.540 --> 00:34:59.780
<v Drew>you

00:34:59.940 --> 00:35:00.740
<v Drew>you have uh

00:35:00.900 --> 00:35:02.100
<v Drew>two terminal boxes

00:35:02.260 --> 00:35:02.820
<v Drew>so one of these

00:35:02.980 --> 00:35:05.140
<v Drew>be plugged into the computer the other one would be near my sim

00:35:05.380 --> 00:35:05.620
<v Drew>rig

00:35:06.180 --> 00:35:06.820
<v Drew>and I could

00:35:06.980 --> 00:35:09.860
<v Drew>I could breach the distance with a single cat

00:35:10.100 --> 00:35:10.820
<v Drew>six cable.

00:35:10.820 --> 00:35:11.220
<v Paul>Yes.

00:35:11.220 --> 00:35:11.620
<v Paul>Yep.

00:35:11.620 --> 00:35:12.180
<v Paul>Yep.

00:35:12.180 --> 00:35:12.740
<v Drew>Right

00:35:13.480 --> 00:35:13.720
<v Drew>So

00:35:13.880 --> 00:35:17.000
<v Drew>apparently it's zero latency up to a hundred

00:35:17.240 --> 00:35:18.280
<v Drew>meters.

00:35:18.280 --> 00:35:19.480
<v Drew>Which is pretty crazy.

00:35:19.480 --> 00:35:20.360
<v Paul>That's pretty crazy.

00:35:20.360 --> 00:35:20.760
<v Paul>Yeah.

00:35:20.760 --> 00:35:21.000
<v Drew>And

00:35:21.059 --> 00:35:22.579
<v Drew>And yes, this is expensive.

00:35:22.579 --> 00:35:24.099
<v Drew>This particular model, and I have

00:35:24.260 --> 00:35:25.460
<v Drew>I'm looking at all different models.

00:35:25.539 --> 00:35:26.420
<v Drew>I'm not set on this one.

00:35:26.420 --> 00:35:29.460
<v Drew>This was just like the first one that popped up in the Google search.

00:35:29.420 --> 00:35:29.900
<v Drew>This was

00:35:30.060 --> 00:35:31.660
<v Drew>$270.

00:35:31.660 --> 00:35:32.860
<v Drew>But here's the thing.

00:35:32.860 --> 00:35:34.860
<v Drew>The quality of life of

00:35:35.180 --> 00:35:36.860
<v Drew>having one cable.

00:35:36.860 --> 00:35:37.420
<v Paul>Yeah.

00:35:37.740 --> 00:35:40.060
<v Drew>One cable from my office.

00:35:40.320 --> 00:35:42.160
<v Drew>I think the real question would be, can I

00:35:42.320 --> 00:35:43.920
<v Drew>can I now hub off of this?

00:35:43.920 --> 00:35:44.960
<v Drew>I'm assuming I could.

00:35:44.960 --> 00:35:45.920
<v Paul>I assume you could.

00:35:45.920 --> 00:35:46.400
<v Paul>Yeah.

00:35:46.400 --> 00:35:46.960
<v Drew>Yeah.

00:35:46.960 --> 00:35:47.920
<v Paul>Yeah.

00:35:49.120 --> 00:35:49.840
<v Drew>So that

00:35:50.000 --> 00:35:54.560
<v Drew>that's what we need to figure out is how we're going to get there.

00:35:54.619 --> 00:35:55.500
<v Drew>But yeah.

00:35:55.500 --> 00:35:55.900
<v Paul>Yeah.

00:36:00.539 --> 00:36:01.900
<v Drew>Oh no, it definitely says that.

00:36:01.900 --> 00:36:02.140
<v Drew>It says

00:36:02.539 --> 00:36:03.339
<v Drew>cascade more.

00:36:03.339 --> 00:36:05.579
<v Drew>Connect USB three hubs to cascade more USB per

00:36:05.740 --> 00:36:05.900
<v Drew>yeah.

00:36:05.900 --> 00:36:07.900
<v Drew>So yeah, it would work for it would work perfectly

00:36:07.540 --> 00:36:08.500
<v Paul>Yeah, 100%.

00:36:08.500 --> 00:36:08.900
<v Paul>Yeah.

00:36:08.900 --> 00:36:09.220
<v Paul>I I

00:36:09.380 --> 00:36:12.020
<v Paul>this is this would be exactly the way that I would I would go.

00:36:12.020 --> 00:36:12.500
<v Paul>Yeah.

00:36:12.500 --> 00:36:13.380
<v Drew>Yeah.

00:36:13.620 --> 00:36:14.660
<v Drew>Yeah.

00:36:14.660 --> 00:36:15.300
<v Drew>Now

00:36:15.540 --> 00:36:16.340
<v Drew>I mean, look, I

00:36:16.660 --> 00:36:17.300
<v Drew>here's the here's

00:36:17.460 --> 00:36:19.140
<v Drew>here's the other elephant in the room, right?

00:36:19.140 --> 00:36:22.820
<v Drew>I bought this really expensive PyMax headset, and it looks amazing.

00:36:23.059 --> 00:36:25.779
<v Drew>So I think what will happen is we're gonna see how it goes.

00:36:25.779 --> 00:36:27.460
<v Drew>The quality isn't as good.

00:36:27.859 --> 00:36:28.900
<v Drew>I've already noticed that.

00:36:28.900 --> 00:36:31.380
<v Drew>But I think it'll be fine for what I want to use this for.

00:36:31.380 --> 00:36:31.859
<v Paul>Okay.

00:36:32.460 --> 00:36:32.779
<v Drew>And

00:36:33.020 --> 00:36:39.819
<v Drew>I I haven't really played with like pixel density or any of the other settings in the Steam frame yet to try to improve the quality.

00:36:39.819 --> 00:36:46.140
<v Drew>So like I said, I'm still dialing it in, and this is probably gonna take a week or so for this shit to show up, but once it does

00:36:47.000 --> 00:36:47.640
<v Drew>Yeah, buddy.

00:36:47.880 --> 00:36:48.200
<v Paul>Superb.

00:36:48.200 --> 00:36:48.680
<v Paul>Superb.

00:36:48.680 --> 00:36:50.839
<v Drew>This is this is this is gonna be this is gonna be a lot of fun.

00:36:50.839 --> 00:36:51.800
<v Paul>Yeah.

00:36:51.800 --> 00:36:53.160
<v Drew>So yeah, that was my big

00:36:53.320 --> 00:36:55.320
<v Drew>that was my big thing that I bought.

00:36:55.320 --> 00:36:56.359
<v Paul>Okay.

00:36:56.580 --> 00:36:57.300
<v Drew>All right.

00:36:57.540 --> 00:36:58.740
<v Drew>How's the game?

00:36:58.740 --> 00:36:59.940
<v Paul>Have you played it?

00:36:59.940 --> 00:37:00.420
<v Drew>No.

00:37:00.420 --> 00:37:00.900
<v Paul>Oh.

00:37:01.140 --> 00:37:02.260
<v Drew>I was out of town this week.

00:37:02.260 --> 00:37:03.860
<v Drew>I was out of town until like yesterday.

00:37:03.860 --> 00:37:04.580
<v Paul>All right.

00:37:04.720 --> 00:37:05.520
<v Paul>So obviously

00:37:05.680 --> 00:37:07.279
<v Paul>Drew is talking about control

00:37:07.599 --> 00:37:09.200
<v Paul>resonant.

00:37:10.720 --> 00:37:12.640
<v Paul>I've got about 15 hours in

00:37:12.799 --> 00:37:13.920
<v Paul>as of today, I think.

00:37:13.920 --> 00:37:16.880
<v Paul>So obviously I'm not I have not beat the game yet

00:37:18.000 --> 00:37:18.640
<v Paul>It is

00:37:20.240 --> 00:37:21.839
<v Paul>okay.

00:37:21.839 --> 00:37:21.920
<v Paul>The

00:37:22.240 --> 00:37:23.119
<v Paul>it's

00:37:25.220 --> 00:37:25.619
<v Paul>I uh

00:37:25.940 --> 00:37:31.059
<v Paul>it's it is a out-of-the-box with default settings, even after the patches.

00:37:31.059 --> 00:37:33.140
<v Paul>It is a hard game.

00:37:33.539 --> 00:37:33.940
<v Drew>Because it's

00:37:34.099 --> 00:37:35.220
<v Drew>more melee focused.

00:37:35.220 --> 00:37:36.099
<v Paul>Yeah, it's just that

00:37:36.260 --> 00:37:37.380
<v Paul>that's it's

00:37:37.539 --> 00:37:37.859
<v Paul>very

00:37:38.099 --> 00:37:38.339
<v Paul>it

00:37:39.400 --> 00:37:40.760
<v Paul>There are some things that

00:37:41.000 --> 00:37:49.400
<v Paul>the game does not explain really well, and luckily for me, some of that stuff has been surfacing in my TikTok algorithm, so I've started to learn some things.

00:37:49.400 --> 00:37:50.040
<v Paul>Like

00:37:50.440 --> 00:37:50.760
<v Paul>uh

00:37:51.800 --> 00:37:52.120
<v Paul>but

00:37:54.819 --> 00:37:55.140
<v Paul>The

00:37:57.299 --> 00:38:00.500
<v Paul>the story is really good.

00:38:00.740 --> 00:38:01.380
<v Paul>The way

00:38:02.020 --> 00:38:02.339
<v Paul>that

00:38:02.579 --> 00:38:03.539
<v Paul>the game

00:38:04.400 --> 00:38:06.800
<v Paul>kind of escapes the oldest house into

00:38:07.040 --> 00:38:10.080
<v Paul>Manhattan that is done really well.

00:38:10.080 --> 00:38:10.720
<v Paul>Uh

00:38:12.580 --> 00:38:12.740
<v Paul>the

00:38:12.900 --> 00:38:14.180
<v Paul>it's getting to to

00:38:14.340 --> 00:38:14.660
<v Paul>uh

00:38:14.820 --> 00:38:14.980
<v Paul>g

00:38:15.220 --> 00:38:15.540
<v Paul>see

00:38:15.700 --> 00:38:17.700
<v Paul>returning characters come back

00:38:18.580 --> 00:38:19.220
<v Paul>is really

00:38:19.540 --> 00:38:19.860
<v Paul>fun

00:38:20.260 --> 00:38:20.580
<v Paul>and

00:38:20.820 --> 00:38:21.140
<v Paul>uh

00:38:21.380 --> 00:38:22.340
<v Paul>not to put like

00:38:22.740 --> 00:38:22.820
<v Paul>to

00:38:23.060 --> 00:38:25.700
<v Paul>so obviously like the big ones like Emily Pope, Arsh,

00:38:25.860 --> 00:38:26.660
<v Paul>Emily Pope, the

00:38:26.900 --> 00:38:29.540
<v Paul>new head of security or head of uh research.

00:38:29.540 --> 00:38:29.620
<v Paul>We

00:38:29.780 --> 00:38:32.980
<v Paul>got Arsh who was like head of security, Langston

00:38:33.140 --> 00:38:33.380
<v Paul>who did the

00:38:33.620 --> 00:38:35.700
<v Paul>ran the Panopcon, all there

00:38:36.220 --> 00:38:37.339
<v Paul>But it is, it's

00:38:37.579 --> 00:38:40.140
<v Paul>the thing that I found the most interesting.

00:38:40.140 --> 00:38:40.220
<v Paul>So

00:38:40.380 --> 00:38:43.260
<v Paul>obviously, okay, spoilers for control.

00:38:43.260 --> 00:38:44.539
<v Paul>All right, I'm not gonna spoil control

00:38:44.700 --> 00:38:46.539
<v Paul>resonant, but spoilers for control.

00:38:46.539 --> 00:38:47.180
<v Drew>Okay.

00:38:47.180 --> 00:38:48.140
<v Paul>Obviously

00:38:48.440 --> 00:38:52.359
<v Paul>Dylan, you play as Dylan in Control Resident, and Dylan is basically

00:38:52.520 --> 00:38:53.400
<v Paul>essentially for all

00:38:53.640 --> 00:38:55.960
<v Paul>purposes the antagonist of control.

00:38:55.960 --> 00:38:57.560
<v Drew>He was the reason everything happened.

00:38:57.560 --> 00:38:57.800
<v Paul>Yes.

00:38:58.280 --> 00:38:58.920
<v Paul>Exactly.

00:38:58.980 --> 00:39:00.020
<v Paul>Well technically it was Trench

00:39:00.180 --> 00:39:00.980
<v Paul>opened the the word

00:39:01.140 --> 00:39:01.380
<v Paul>of the hiss

00:39:01.539 --> 00:39:01.619
<v Paul>because

00:39:02.260 --> 00:39:02.260
<v Paul>I think it's a good thing.

00:39:03.539 --> 00:39:03.859
<v Paul>Yeah.

00:39:03.859 --> 00:39:04.180
<v Paul>Yeah.

00:39:04.180 --> 00:39:06.260
<v Paul>But he was basically in a big timeout

00:39:06.500 --> 00:39:09.380
<v Paul>because he raged and killed a bunch of people and then he became hiss

00:39:09.539 --> 00:39:11.700
<v Paul>infected and killed even more people

00:39:12.400 --> 00:39:12.640
<v Paul>So

00:39:12.800 --> 00:39:15.200
<v Paul>especially at the beginning, people

00:39:15.520 --> 00:39:17.680
<v Paul>fucking hate Dylan.

00:39:17.680 --> 00:39:18.320
<v Drew>Oh, okay.

00:39:18.320 --> 00:39:19.120
<v Drew>That makes sense.

00:39:19.120 --> 00:39:19.680
<v Drew>Makes sense.

00:39:19.680 --> 00:39:19.760
<v Drew>And

00:39:19.920 --> 00:39:20.560
<v Drew>why not?

00:39:20.560 --> 00:39:20.880
<v Paul>They hate

00:39:21.120 --> 00:39:22.000
<v Paul>and especially like

00:39:22.160 --> 00:39:22.720
<v Paul>Arsh

00:39:22.880 --> 00:39:22.960
<v Paul>just

00:39:23.200 --> 00:39:23.760
<v Paul>friggin'

00:39:24.339 --> 00:39:24.579
<v Paul>Hates

00:39:24.820 --> 00:39:26.099
<v Paul>him so much.

00:39:26.099 --> 00:39:28.740
<v Paul>Arish, Arish, or not Arish, Arish, the head of security.

00:39:28.740 --> 00:39:29.060
<v Paul>Yeah.

00:39:29.060 --> 00:39:29.220
<v Paul>Hates

00:39:29.380 --> 00:39:29.619
<v Paul>him.

00:39:29.619 --> 00:39:29.700
<v Paul>Hates

00:39:29.859 --> 00:39:30.020
<v Paul>him.

00:39:30.020 --> 00:39:30.740
<v Paul>And like all the

00:39:30.900 --> 00:39:31.060
<v Paul>you

00:39:31.220 --> 00:39:35.380
<v Paul>walk past FBC's employees and be like, what is that fucking freak doing here?

00:39:35.380 --> 00:39:35.619
<v Paul>And

00:39:36.420 --> 00:39:37.619
<v Paul>things like that

00:39:38.080 --> 00:39:38.720
<v Paul>Uh

00:39:40.800 --> 00:39:41.440
<v Paul>it is

00:39:41.760 --> 00:39:42.720
<v Paul>it's it's good

00:39:42.960 --> 00:39:43.840
<v Paul>it's good, Drew.

00:39:43.840 --> 00:39:44.880
<v Paul>You you you definitely

00:39:45.040 --> 00:39:47.040
<v Paul>you definitely are gonna need to play it.

00:39:47.040 --> 00:39:47.520
<v Paul>Uh

00:39:47.940 --> 00:39:51.220
<v Paul>I'm not I'm not too proud to say I did go in and

00:39:51.380 --> 00:39:52.579
<v Paul>uh go into assist

00:39:52.820 --> 00:39:57.700
<v Paul>mode and turn down the amount of damage I take and turn up the amount of damage I give just a little bit

00:39:57.859 --> 00:39:58.980
<v Paul>and I have found

00:39:59.260 --> 00:40:02.860
<v Paul>Things where I still, especially like on boss fights, it may take me a couple

00:40:03.020 --> 00:40:07.020
<v Paul>times to get through, but I'm not ready to throw my, you know, controller across the

00:40:07.180 --> 00:40:10.780
<v Paul>the the room and and break and break a TV or anything.

00:40:10.780 --> 00:40:11.420
<v Paul>Uh

00:40:12.320 --> 00:40:15.040
<v Paul>Yeah, the combat feels really good.

00:40:15.040 --> 00:40:15.680
<v Paul>Uh

00:40:16.720 --> 00:40:17.040
<v Paul>the

00:40:17.520 --> 00:40:17.840
<v Paul>the

00:40:20.320 --> 00:40:22.720
<v Paul>Some of my favorite interactions are up

00:40:22.960 --> 00:40:24.720
<v Paul>so obviously in the first

00:40:24.880 --> 00:40:25.280
<v Paul>game

00:40:25.440 --> 00:40:27.920
<v Paul>there is the board, these extra-dimensional

00:40:28.400 --> 00:40:31.680
<v Paul>entities that essentially are directing the directory.

00:40:35.720 --> 00:40:38.120
<v Paul>Did you ever play the Foundation DLC?

00:40:38.120 --> 00:40:38.200
<v Paul>I

00:40:39.240 --> 00:40:40.040
<v Drew>think I think so.

00:40:40.040 --> 00:40:40.280
<v Paul>Yeah, with

00:40:40.520 --> 00:40:41.800
<v Paul>with like the nail and stuff.

00:40:41.800 --> 00:40:42.520
<v Paul>And you obviously

00:40:45.480 --> 00:40:46.840
<v Paul>between the board and Jesse

00:40:47.080 --> 00:40:49.320
<v Paul>is definitely very tenuous.

00:40:48.900 --> 00:40:49.540
<v Paul>Uh

00:40:50.020 --> 00:40:50.180
<v Paul>even

00:40:50.420 --> 00:40:51.940
<v Paul>more so in this point.

00:40:51.940 --> 00:40:52.660
<v Paul>And uh

00:40:53.300 --> 00:40:55.860
<v Paul>okay, so slight, slight spoilers for control

00:40:56.100 --> 00:40:56.500
<v Paul>resin.

00:40:56.500 --> 00:40:57.700
<v Paul>If you don't want to hear it, just turn it off.

00:40:57.700 --> 00:40:59.380
<v Paul>I'm not gonna spoil a little bit.

00:40:59.160 --> 00:40:59.240
<v Paul>But

00:40:59.400 --> 00:41:00.360
<v Paul>so you know the the

00:41:00.520 --> 00:41:01.800
<v Paul>the weapon that

00:41:02.200 --> 00:41:05.000
<v Paul>you've seen the demos, the aberrant, the weapon that Dylan

00:41:05.240 --> 00:41:06.040
<v Paul>uses.

00:41:06.040 --> 00:41:06.920
<v Drew>Uh-huh.

00:41:07.800 --> 00:41:08.120
<v Paul>Some

00:41:08.440 --> 00:41:10.280
<v Paul>before the game starts

00:41:12.060 --> 00:41:12.620
<v Paul>Jesse

00:41:12.780 --> 00:41:13.100
<v Paul>puts the

00:41:13.340 --> 00:41:17.340
<v Paul>the board is in that weapon.

00:41:17.340 --> 00:41:19.020
<v Paul>They are no longer in the astral

00:41:19.340 --> 00:41:19.740
<v Paul>playing.

00:41:19.740 --> 00:41:21.420
<v Paul>They are trapped in this weapon.

00:41:21.420 --> 00:41:23.100
<v Paul>And that is why.

00:41:23.299 --> 00:41:23.700
<v Paul>Jesse

00:41:23.940 --> 00:41:26.020
<v Paul>gives the weapon to Dylan.

00:41:26.420 --> 00:41:28.579
<v Drew>Oh, okay.

00:41:28.579 --> 00:41:28.819
<v Paul>So

00:41:29.059 --> 00:41:30.900
<v Paul>the board is in there

00:41:31.460 --> 00:41:31.779
<v Paul>and

00:41:32.020 --> 00:41:32.339
<v Paul>uh

00:41:33.860 --> 00:41:34.260
<v Paul>They

00:41:34.420 --> 00:41:36.260
<v Paul>they have opinions.

00:41:36.260 --> 00:41:37.220
<v Drew>Oh uh yes

00:41:37.380 --> 00:41:38.500
<v Drew>they do.

00:41:38.500 --> 00:41:39.460
<v Paul>Uh-huh.

00:41:39.460 --> 00:41:40.580
<v Paul>And like there's one

00:41:40.740 --> 00:41:42.660
<v Paul>there's one part, one moment

00:41:42.820 --> 00:41:42.980
<v Paul>where

00:41:43.140 --> 00:41:43.460
<v Paul>like

00:41:43.700 --> 00:41:44.020
<v Paul>uh

00:41:45.360 --> 00:41:49.120
<v Paul>Dylan is talking to Emily Pope and she brings up the board

00:41:49.360 --> 00:41:51.760
<v Paul>and Dylan is about to say something

00:41:51.920 --> 00:41:55.120
<v Paul>about like, hey, like, I'm pretty sure the board's in here, and like

00:41:55.280 --> 00:41:58.000
<v Paul>they cut him off and basically just like, do not

00:41:58.240 --> 00:42:01.360
<v Paul>tell her anything about what is going on.

00:42:01.360 --> 00:42:03.520
<v Paul>And he's like, okay.

00:42:03.520 --> 00:42:04.160
<v Paul>Uh

00:42:04.960 --> 00:42:05.840
<v Drew>wow.

00:42:05.840 --> 00:42:06.480
<v Paul>Uh

00:42:07.020 --> 00:42:10.540
<v Paul>If you do play it, uh I will give you a couple of

00:42:11.099 --> 00:42:11.579
<v Paul>couple

00:42:11.900 --> 00:42:13.740
<v Paul>points of advice.

00:42:13.820 --> 00:42:14.780
<v Drew>All right.

00:42:14.780 --> 00:42:15.339
<v Paul>Uh

00:42:16.360 --> 00:42:16.600
<v Paul>So

00:42:16.840 --> 00:42:21.720
<v Paul>there's a lot of different there's different forms for the aberrant, both like your primary

00:42:21.880 --> 00:42:24.040
<v Paul>or secondary, and finishers.

00:42:24.040 --> 00:42:24.360
<v Paul>Uh

00:42:24.600 --> 00:42:29.240
<v Paul>you will obviously pick what like ones to unlock and ones that you like.

00:42:29.320 --> 00:42:30.280
<v Paul>I would continue

00:42:30.440 --> 00:42:30.680
<v Paul>you

00:42:30.920 --> 00:42:32.040
<v Paul>need to upgrade

00:42:32.200 --> 00:42:35.560
<v Paul>even the forms you don't use, you need to upgrade.

00:42:35.560 --> 00:42:39.160
<v Paul>Because the more upgrades you have, the more powerful you are.

00:42:39.680 --> 00:42:42.079
<v Paul>In general, and the higher your damage will be.

00:42:42.079 --> 00:42:46.320
<v Paul>So even if you upgrade forms you're not using, you still need to because that makes your it

00:42:46.480 --> 00:42:48.480
<v Paul>the damage on the forms you are more.

00:42:48.480 --> 00:42:51.359
<v Paul>It basically just levels up the weapon more.

00:42:51.359 --> 00:42:51.680
<v Paul>So

00:42:52.059 --> 00:42:56.380
<v Paul>Spend those resources, spend those points, upgrade things you're not using.

00:42:56.380 --> 00:42:57.260
<v Drew>Okay.

00:42:57.260 --> 00:42:58.059
<v Paul>You will uh

00:42:58.299 --> 00:42:58.779
<v Paul>you will

00:42:59.099 --> 00:43:00.859
<v Paul>once you kind of get past like

00:43:01.020 --> 00:43:02.299
<v Paul>the first boss

00:43:03.640 --> 00:43:04.600
<v Paul>You will get

00:43:04.920 --> 00:43:08.840
<v Paul>these missions basically to track down these faults.

00:43:08.920 --> 00:43:09.560
<v Drew>All right.

00:43:09.560 --> 00:43:12.440
<v Paul>Those are the most important missions you can do.

00:43:12.440 --> 00:43:15.960
<v Paul>They're technically side missions, and technically you can ignore them.

00:43:16.020 --> 00:43:20.500
<v Paul>Because those are the missions that unlock different movement abilities.

00:43:21.060 --> 00:43:25.220
<v Paul>And you will need those to succeed in the game.

00:43:25.400 --> 00:43:26.120
<v Drew>Okay.

00:43:26.200 --> 00:43:26.360
<v Paul>So

00:43:26.520 --> 00:43:27.800
<v Paul>that's my recommendation is

00:43:27.960 --> 00:43:29.320
<v Paul>kind of just ignore

00:43:29.640 --> 00:43:29.960
<v Paul>uh

00:43:30.680 --> 00:43:31.640
<v Paul>I mean you can go

00:43:31.800 --> 00:43:33.080
<v Paul>you can go out uh yeah

00:43:33.320 --> 00:43:33.960
<v Paul>yeah.

00:43:34.140 --> 00:43:37.900
<v Paul>So basically like the the missions come down in like these big chunks.

00:43:37.900 --> 00:43:40.700
<v Paul>There's the main story missions.

00:43:40.700 --> 00:43:41.260
<v Paul>There's

00:43:41.740 --> 00:43:43.819
<v Paul>these resonance, which are kind of like if you

00:43:43.980 --> 00:43:46.059
<v Paul>watch the trailers, like the bosses

00:43:46.340 --> 00:43:47.620
<v Paul>There's those.

00:43:47.620 --> 00:43:50.420
<v Paul>Killing residents also unlocks like new like

00:43:50.580 --> 00:43:52.340
<v Paul>secondary powers.

00:43:52.340 --> 00:43:55.140
<v Paul>There's side missions, and then there's the faults.

00:43:55.040 --> 00:43:56.240
<v Paul>I would put the resident

00:43:56.400 --> 00:43:58.640
<v Paul>and fault missions as your most important, putting the f

00:43:58.800 --> 00:44:00.160
<v Paul>the the fault missions first

00:44:00.400 --> 00:44:03.760
<v Paul>because you will unlock abilities that you need to

00:44:04.240 --> 00:44:05.600
<v Paul>You just you just need these.

00:44:05.600 --> 00:44:10.960
<v Paul>There's two key movement abilities you need to get in order to actually play the game correctly.

00:44:10.960 --> 00:44:12.960
<v Paul>And like the story it's not part of the story.

00:44:12.960 --> 00:44:16.320
<v Paul>You would expect something that critical to be part of the story.

00:44:16.320 --> 00:44:17.360
<v Paul>They are not

00:44:17.740 --> 00:44:19.980
<v Paul>There's side missions that you have to purposely

00:44:20.140 --> 00:44:21.340
<v Paul>do and go down

00:44:21.580 --> 00:44:22.780
<v Paul>to to get.

00:44:24.300 --> 00:44:25.500
<v Paul>Yeah.

00:44:25.980 --> 00:44:27.340
<v Paul>So I would yeah.

00:44:27.940 --> 00:44:30.020
<v Paul>I prioritize the fault missions.

00:44:30.020 --> 00:44:30.340
<v Paul>Uh

00:44:30.500 --> 00:44:32.500
<v Paul>and they're also they're they're good narratively too.

00:44:32.500 --> 00:44:33.060
<v Paul>They're fun.

00:44:33.060 --> 00:44:33.460
<v Paul>They're fun.

00:44:33.460 --> 00:44:35.220
<v Paul>They're a little they're they're weird.

00:44:35.220 --> 00:44:35.860
<v Paul>Uh

00:44:36.860 --> 00:44:37.420
<v Paul>Yeah, the

00:44:37.660 --> 00:44:37.820
<v Paul>the

00:44:37.980 --> 00:44:39.260
<v Paul>enemies are a little

00:44:39.500 --> 00:44:39.580
<v Paul>they

00:44:39.900 --> 00:44:40.140
<v Paul>the the

00:44:40.300 --> 00:44:40.460
<v Paul>the

00:44:40.620 --> 00:44:42.940
<v Paul>the reviews are correct, the enemies can be a little tanky

00:44:43.100 --> 00:44:44.380
<v Paul>sometimes, but

00:44:44.920 --> 00:44:45.560
<v Paul>You know,

00:44:45.880 --> 00:44:47.880
<v Paul>I mean again, I'm not I'm not proud

00:44:48.040 --> 00:44:49.160
<v Paul>I mean too proud to say.

00:44:49.160 --> 00:44:53.800
<v Paul>I did go in the accessibility stuff and did tweak things a little bit to make the game more fun for me.

00:44:54.040 --> 00:44:54.920
<v Paul>I don't have a mort

00:44:55.400 --> 00:44:59.080
<v Paul>I didn't turn on like one hit kills or immortality or anything like that.

00:44:59.080 --> 00:45:00.200
<v Paul>I'm still playing the game.

00:45:00.200 --> 00:45:01.240
<v Paul>I just liked it like

00:45:01.400 --> 00:45:05.080
<v Paul>I don't I don't I want to be a little less spongy and I want to deal a little bit more damage.

00:45:05.080 --> 00:45:05.480
<v Paul>And that's what

00:45:05.640 --> 00:45:07.480
<v Paul>those are the two things I tweaked

00:45:07.580 --> 00:45:08.220
<v Paul>Uh

00:45:08.460 --> 00:45:09.180
<v Paul>it's fine.

00:45:09.180 --> 00:45:10.220
<v Paul>It looks pretty.

00:45:10.220 --> 00:45:11.340
<v Paul>It's fast.

00:45:11.340 --> 00:45:12.540
<v Paul>The combat is

00:45:13.340 --> 00:45:13.500
<v Paul>it

00:45:13.740 --> 00:45:13.900
<v Paul>is

00:45:14.140 --> 00:45:16.620
<v Paul>is it the best combat in the world?

00:45:16.620 --> 00:45:17.420
<v Paul>No.

00:45:17.720 --> 00:45:17.960
<v Paul>Do

00:45:18.200 --> 00:45:21.319
<v Paul>I avoid combat encounters because combat is boring?

00:45:21.319 --> 00:45:22.119
<v Paul>Absolutely not.

00:45:22.119 --> 00:45:23.000
<v Paul>It's fun.

00:45:23.000 --> 00:45:27.640
<v Paul>Like, especially when you start getting some abilities and you're like, oh shit, there's the mold.

00:45:27.640 --> 00:45:28.440
<v Paul>I'm gonna fuck the

00:45:28.599 --> 00:45:30.599
<v Paul>I'm gonna fuck these mold things up.

00:45:30.599 --> 00:45:32.359
<v Paul>Let's go.

00:45:32.020 --> 00:45:32.660
<v Paul>Uh

00:45:33.940 --> 00:45:34.260
<v Paul>so

00:45:34.420 --> 00:45:36.740
<v Paul>the one big difference between

00:45:37.060 --> 00:45:40.260
<v Paul>combat-wise, even the fact that it's melee versus

00:45:40.500 --> 00:45:40.820
<v Paul>like

00:45:40.980 --> 00:45:41.220
<v Paul>uh

00:45:41.460 --> 00:45:42.339
<v Paul>ranged

00:45:42.720 --> 00:45:47.039
<v Paul>There are basically two classes of enemies, and you see them on like you have a little mini-map.

00:45:47.039 --> 00:45:47.200
<v Paul>There are

00:45:47.359 --> 00:45:53.839
<v Paul>your typical minions, and then there are, I can't remember what they call, but they're basically the bigger, bigger enemies.

00:45:54.080 --> 00:45:57.360
<v Paul>The little ones will keep spawning as long as the big ones are there.

00:45:57.360 --> 00:46:00.800
<v Paul>So you kind of have to prioritize killing the bigger ones

00:46:01.040 --> 00:46:01.360
<v Paul>first

00:46:01.600 --> 00:46:03.280
<v Paul>to end a combat encounter.

00:46:03.420 --> 00:46:06.940
<v Paul>The little ones will help you build up like your power meters and you know

00:46:07.100 --> 00:46:07.980
<v Paul>and stuff like that.

00:46:07.980 --> 00:46:09.500
<v Paul>So you and and plus like there

00:46:09.740 --> 00:46:11.260
<v Paul>could be dozens of them.

00:46:11.440 --> 00:46:16.079
<v Paul>But there are these bigger ones and sometimes the bigger ones are flying or they have armor

00:46:16.480 --> 00:46:16.800
<v Paul>or

00:46:17.119 --> 00:46:17.440
<v Paul>uh

00:46:17.760 --> 00:46:19.839
<v Paul>they're a possessed bus.

00:46:19.660 --> 00:46:20.940
<v Paul>That keeps spitting out hiss

00:46:21.340 --> 00:46:23.500
<v Paul>that you have to take off parts of the bus

00:46:23.740 --> 00:46:24.860
<v Paul>so you can destroy it.

00:46:24.860 --> 00:46:26.460
<v Paul>Yes, really you fight hiss

00:46:26.620 --> 00:46:27.100
<v Paul>buses.

00:46:27.100 --> 00:46:27.980
<v Paul>It's it's a thing.

00:46:27.980 --> 00:46:28.060
<v Paul>Uh

00:46:28.540 --> 00:46:29.340
<v Drew>buses.

00:46:29.740 --> 00:46:30.860
<v Paul>Yeah.

00:46:30.940 --> 00:46:31.980
<v Drew>Okay.

00:46:33.640 --> 00:46:34.200
<v Paul>It's good.

00:46:36.040 --> 00:46:37.080
<v Paul>I think I'm probably

00:46:37.240 --> 00:46:39.640
<v Paul>maybe a little bit more than halfway through the story.

00:46:39.640 --> 00:46:41.800
<v Paul>I kind of have a feeling where I know I

00:46:42.240 --> 00:46:47.600
<v Paul>I'm starting to be able to piece things enough together where I think I understand what is happening.

00:46:48.160 --> 00:46:49.680
<v Paul>I've read enough like

00:46:50.240 --> 00:46:52.400
<v Paul>things are starting to make sense.

00:46:54.060 --> 00:46:54.620
<v Paul>Uh

00:46:54.860 --> 00:46:56.940
<v Paul>I've also, yeah.

00:46:58.060 --> 00:46:59.900
<v Paul>I can't wait till you play it, Drew.

00:46:59.980 --> 00:47:01.180
<v Paul>We can get a little spoilerly

00:47:01.340 --> 00:47:03.180
<v Paul>and start talking about things.

00:47:03.120 --> 00:47:03.360
<v Paul>Uh

00:47:03.600 --> 00:47:04.000
<v Drew>all right.

00:47:04.000 --> 00:47:04.160
<v Drew>Uh

00:47:04.320 --> 00:47:04.400
<v Drew>yeah

00:47:04.640 --> 00:47:05.760
<v Drew>it's on my list.

00:47:05.760 --> 00:47:06.000
<v Drew>Um

00:47:07.520 --> 00:47:08.160
<v Drew>I just uh

00:47:08.400 --> 00:47:11.520
<v Drew>this is gonna be a very busy month for me travel wise, unfortunately.

00:47:11.520 --> 00:47:11.920
<v Paul>Yeah.

00:47:11.859 --> 00:47:12.180
<v Paul>It's okay.

00:47:12.339 --> 00:47:15.540
<v Drew>I think I I think I might actually be home only one week this week.

00:47:19.060 --> 00:47:22.500
<v Drew>But it's it's it's currently in my Steam shopping cart.

00:47:22.500 --> 00:47:24.339
<v Drew>I just haven't I haven't bought it yet.

00:47:24.339 --> 00:47:24.660
<v Drew>And

00:47:24.859 --> 00:47:26.460
<v Drew>I know tomorrow night we have

00:47:26.780 --> 00:47:27.339
<v Drew>game.

00:47:27.980 --> 00:47:28.220
<v Drew>So

00:47:28.380 --> 00:47:30.859
<v Drew>really I'm looking at potentially Saturday or Sunday.

00:47:30.859 --> 00:47:32.140
<v Drew>And Sunday I have

00:47:32.300 --> 00:47:33.660
<v Drew>I have something to do

00:47:33.820 --> 00:47:34.460
<v Drew>and then

00:47:35.460 --> 00:47:39.619
<v Drew>Saturday, this guy keeps messaging me on Facebook Marketplace as I'm playing this.

00:47:39.619 --> 00:47:39.940
<v Drew>Um

00:47:42.020 --> 00:47:43.940
<v Drew>so I'll have to like figure that out.

00:47:43.940 --> 00:47:45.299
<v Drew>But it's it's on my list.

00:47:45.299 --> 00:47:47.940
<v Drew>Plus, I wanna do some more things with the same scene frame.

00:47:47.940 --> 00:47:49.859
<v Drew>They gave me a free copy of Half-Life Alex.

00:47:50.180 --> 00:47:50.980
<v Paul>Which I've never played.

00:47:51.380 --> 00:47:52.260
<v Paul>I've never played that either.

00:47:52.260 --> 00:47:52.500
<v Paul>Yeah.

00:47:52.660 --> 00:47:53.380
<v Drew>Supposed to be really good.

00:47:53.700 --> 00:47:55.859
<v Drew>And then there's a couple other games that I want to I want to try out

00:47:56.099 --> 00:47:58.900
<v Drew>and see how it plays on there, especially now that it's completely wireless.

00:47:58.900 --> 00:48:00.260
<v Drew>I think that'll be really cool to try.

00:48:00.940 --> 00:48:01.099
<v Drew>And

00:48:01.260 --> 00:48:06.460
<v Drew>especially because I can like stream while wireless, I'll get a really good sense for how long the battery lasts and things like that.

00:48:06.460 --> 00:48:06.859
<v Paul>Yeah.

00:48:07.260 --> 00:48:07.500
<v Drew>Uh

00:48:07.660 --> 00:48:07.740
<v Drew>only

00:48:07.900 --> 00:48:10.619
<v Drew>other thing I wanted to mention before we sign off for tonight.

00:48:11.559 --> 00:48:12.599
<v Drew>Uh, where is the podcast

00:48:12.760 --> 00:48:13.240
<v Drew>doc?

00:48:13.240 --> 00:48:17.079
<v Drew>So I don't know if you saw the news, but this is also video game related.

00:48:17.079 --> 00:48:19.880
<v Drew>Have you seen the news around Destiny 2?

00:48:20.120 --> 00:48:21.720
<v Paul>I have not.

00:48:21.720 --> 00:48:22.040
<v Drew>So

00:48:22.200 --> 00:48:27.000
<v Drew>basically, Bungie came out and said, No, we really like Destiny.

00:48:27.000 --> 00:48:28.200
<v Drew>We're not gonna kill it.

00:48:28.200 --> 00:48:29.080
<v Paul>Really?

00:48:29.080 --> 00:48:30.600
<v Drew>And they're bringing back

00:48:31.339 --> 00:48:33.579
<v Drew>All the vaulted content.

00:48:33.740 --> 00:48:34.700
<v Paul>Oh.

00:48:36.619 --> 00:48:39.180
<v Drew>So I dropped a I dropped a blog post in there.

00:48:39.180 --> 00:48:43.420
<v Drew>They basically came in and said, you know, look, we know Destiny 2 is important.

00:48:43.260 --> 00:48:46.220
<v Drew>It's a huge part of our franchise.

00:48:46.220 --> 00:48:48.700
<v Drew>We don't want it to die off like this.

00:48:48.700 --> 00:48:49.660
<v Drew>So we're gonna

00:48:49.820 --> 00:48:51.980
<v Drew>we're gonna continue to update it.

00:48:52.140 --> 00:48:55.819
<v Drew>It may not be as much of a live service game anymore.

00:48:55.819 --> 00:48:57.980
<v Drew>So it may not get regular updates.

00:48:57.980 --> 00:49:01.339
<v Drew>It may get small little things here and there.

00:49:01.339 --> 00:49:01.660
<v Drew>But

00:49:02.799 --> 00:49:06.480
<v Drew>Basically, it talks about, you know, here's why we did the things that we did.

00:49:06.480 --> 00:49:09.920
<v Drew>Here's where we see Marathon going, which marathon is not for me.

00:49:09.920 --> 00:49:10.400
<v Paul>Yeah.

00:49:10.400 --> 00:49:12.480
<v Paul>I've heard I've heard that that's kind of the

00:49:13.099 --> 00:49:14.540
<v Paul>It's okay.

00:49:14.619 --> 00:49:15.900
<v Drew>It's an extraction shooter.

00:49:15.900 --> 00:49:17.660
<v Drew>It's an extraction shooter.

00:49:17.660 --> 00:49:18.619
<v Drew>And you know,

00:49:18.780 --> 00:49:20.380
<v Drew>when I stream, it's so funny.

00:49:20.380 --> 00:49:22.700
<v Drew>When I stream playing Escape from Tarkov

00:49:22.859 --> 00:49:23.020
<v Paul>,

00:49:23.820 --> 00:49:25.500
<v Drew>There's two major theme.

00:49:25.500 --> 00:49:29.020
<v Drew>There's two major recurring themes on my stream when I play Tarkov.

00:49:29.020 --> 00:49:31.980
<v Drew>The first one is people come in and comment on my baldness.

00:49:32.500 --> 00:49:33.460
<v Drew>And say that I look like

00:49:33.620 --> 00:49:33.940
<v Drew>insert

00:49:34.100 --> 00:49:34.820
<v Drew>famous bald person

00:49:34.980 --> 00:49:35.940
<v Drew>here, which I don't.

00:49:35.940 --> 00:49:36.340
<v Paul>Okay.

00:49:36.580 --> 00:49:40.020
<v Drew>And the other one is they call me a giant pussy for playing PvE

00:49:41.500 --> 00:49:41.980
<v Paul>Yeah.

00:49:41.980 --> 00:49:44.940
<v Drew>And and my answer to them is, hey buddy, I've got a mortgage

00:49:45.339 --> 00:49:45.900
<v Drew>and I'm forty

00:49:46.059 --> 00:49:47.099
<v Drew>fucking six years old.

00:49:47.099 --> 00:49:48.140
<v Drew>I'm not a sweat

00:49:48.100 --> 00:49:51.300
<v Drew>I'm not gonna be a no-lifer and try to compete in PvP.

00:49:51.620 --> 00:49:52.100
<v Drew>I'm just not.

00:49:52.100 --> 00:49:52.900
<v Drew>I'm not good enough.

00:49:52.900 --> 00:49:54.340
<v Drew>I know that I'm not good enough.

00:49:54.340 --> 00:49:55.300
<v Drew>I like the game.

00:49:55.300 --> 00:49:56.260
<v Drew>I like the world.

00:49:56.260 --> 00:49:57.300
<v Drew>I like the gunplay.

00:49:57.300 --> 00:49:57.700
<v Drew>I like the

00:49:57.940 --> 00:49:58.980
<v Drew>core gameplay loop

00:49:59.060 --> 00:49:59.780
<v Drew>It's awesome.

00:50:00.620 --> 00:50:01.900
<v Drew>I'm gonna play PvE.

00:50:01.900 --> 00:50:02.700
<v Drew>I don't really give a shit.

00:50:02.700 --> 00:50:04.620
<v Drew>And if you're the kind of person that wants to come on the internet

00:50:04.780 --> 00:50:09.100
<v Drew>and join my stream and call me a pussy for playing PvE, that says more about you than it does me.

00:50:09.100 --> 00:50:12.620
<v Paul>That's the stuff I always enjoyed in Destiny anyway, was all the PvE stuff.

00:50:13.020 --> 00:50:13.580
<v Paul>Right

00:50:13.359 --> 00:50:13.839
<v Paul>Yes, I

00:50:14.000 --> 00:50:14.079
<v Paul>I

00:50:14.320 --> 00:50:15.200
<v Paul>that's what I enjoyed.

00:50:15.200 --> 00:50:17.839
<v Paul>I like working with other people and fighting

00:50:18.079 --> 00:50:19.040
<v Paul>the computer.

00:50:19.040 --> 00:50:19.440
<v Paul>It's good.

00:50:19.599 --> 00:50:19.839
<v Paul>Yeah.

00:50:19.839 --> 00:50:20.240
<v Paul>It's good.

00:50:20.240 --> 00:50:20.640
<v Paul>Yeah.

00:50:20.640 --> 00:50:23.359
<v Drew>And and and by the way, it's not a complete pushover.

00:50:23.359 --> 00:50:24.000
<v Drew>It's not.

00:50:27.359 --> 00:50:34.320
<v Drew>The hardest content in Tarkov, even if you're playing in PvP mode, is PvE shit.

00:50:34.320 --> 00:50:39.200
<v Drew>If you're playing Icebreaker, if you're playing Terminal, if you're fighting the Black Division.

00:50:39.440 --> 00:50:40.720
<v Drew>Those are bots.

00:50:40.720 --> 00:50:40.880
<v Drew>So

00:50:41.119 --> 00:50:45.040
<v Drew>you're playing PvE too, buddy, even though you're playing in PvP mode.

00:50:45.040 --> 00:50:45.280
<v Drew>So

00:50:45.440 --> 00:50:46.079
<v Drew>anyway

00:50:46.960 --> 00:50:47.119
<v Drew>,

00:50:47.680 --> 00:50:49.520
<v Drew>it's really interesting, but

00:50:50.000 --> 00:50:50.160
<v Drew>long

00:50:50.400 --> 00:50:51.520
<v Drew>story short

00:50:52.440 --> 00:50:52.920
<v Drew>They're bring

00:50:53.080 --> 00:50:55.240
<v Drew>they're basically bringing back all the vaulted content.

00:50:55.240 --> 00:50:59.560
<v Drew>They are gonna get they are mapping out a future for this, which really excites me because I remember

00:51:00.020 --> 00:51:00.339
<v Drew>I

00:51:00.500 --> 00:51:02.339
<v Drew>didn't play a lot of Destiny 1.

00:51:02.339 --> 00:51:02.980
<v Drew>I only did

00:51:03.220 --> 00:51:07.460
<v Drew>Vault of Glass was the was the most complex thing I ever did in Destiny 1

00:51:07.740 --> 00:51:14.060
<v Drew>But they're bringing back the very first raid from Destiny 2, the Leviathan, which by the way is a fucking kick-ass

00:51:14.220 --> 00:51:14.620
<v Drew>raid.

00:51:14.620 --> 00:51:15.260
<v Paul>Yeah

00:51:15.640 --> 00:51:17.079
<v Drew>I'm so excited for this.

00:51:17.079 --> 00:51:21.160
<v Drew>And there's actually content in here because I played Destiny 2 at launch.

00:51:21.160 --> 00:51:22.440
<v Drew>Then I stopped.

00:51:22.440 --> 00:51:24.680
<v Drew>I got back into it after Shadow Keep.

00:51:24.680 --> 00:51:27.400
<v Drew>So there's like a span of game in there that I never got to play.

00:51:27.400 --> 00:51:28.359
<v Paul>Yeah.

00:51:28.140 --> 00:51:35.099
<v Drew>So I'm really, really excited for them to to bring this back, and I I probably will be back on my Destiny 2 bullshit.

00:51:36.299 --> 00:51:36.619
<v Drew>So

00:51:37.180 --> 00:51:37.339
<v Paul>this

00:51:37.660 --> 00:51:41.660
<v Paul>this may be enough to pull me back in for a little bit.

00:51:41.660 --> 00:51:42.140
<v Drew>Okay.

00:51:42.140 --> 00:51:42.779
<v Paul>Maybe maybe

00:51:42.940 --> 00:51:43.420
<v Paul>maybe

00:51:44.600 --> 00:51:46.120
<v Paul>Yeah, we should record an episode,

00:51:46.280 --> 00:51:46.440
<v Paul>but

00:51:46.600 --> 00:51:47.160
<v Paul>we stream

00:51:47.320 --> 00:51:47.880
<v Paul>tests.

00:51:51.859 --> 00:51:53.220
<v Drew>We have we have French of the shows

00:51:53.380 --> 00:51:54.980
<v Drew>that play that we can also play with them.

00:51:54.980 --> 00:51:56.020
<v Drew>So we're we're uh

00:51:56.180 --> 00:51:59.780
<v Drew>if it's me, you and them, that's four of the six that we need to actually do shit.

00:51:59.780 --> 00:52:00.420
<v Paul>Yeah.

00:52:00.420 --> 00:52:00.660
<v Drew>But

00:52:01.220 --> 00:52:02.579
<v Drew>Anyway, like

00:52:02.900 --> 00:52:03.460
<v Drew>they've

00:52:03.619 --> 00:52:10.339
<v Drew>ever since I've stopped playing, they have made major changes to like stats and armor and all this stuff that I don't understand at all.

00:52:10.339 --> 00:52:13.380
<v Drew>So it would be a little bit of a learning curve for me to jump back in right now.

00:52:13.619 --> 00:52:14.579
<v Paul>Same, same

00:52:15.260 --> 00:52:18.619
<v Drew>But getting to replay all that content would be fucking amazing.

00:52:18.619 --> 00:52:19.420
<v Paul>Yeah.

00:52:19.420 --> 00:52:21.339
<v Drew>Alright, let's let's pencil that in.

00:52:21.339 --> 00:52:21.740
<v Paul>Yeah, let's

00:52:21.900 --> 00:52:22.619
<v Paul>I think that'd be good.

00:52:22.619 --> 00:52:23.180
<v Paul>That'd be good.

00:52:27.020 --> 00:52:27.900
<v Drew>Alright.

00:52:27.840 --> 00:52:28.240
<v Paul>Oh.

00:52:28.560 --> 00:52:30.080
<v Drew>Well, that seems like a show, buddy.

00:52:30.080 --> 00:52:31.520
<v Paul>It is, absolutely.

00:52:32.480 --> 00:52:33.680
<v Paul>Doingtheirbest.

00:52:33.680 --> 00:52:33.920
<v Paul>com.

00:52:33.920 --> 00:52:35.920
<v Paul>You can find all the show notes, uh

00:52:36.480 --> 00:52:38.400
<v Paul>links, all that wonderful stuff.

00:52:38.400 --> 00:52:41.120
<v Paul>And hey, thanks for listening.

