WEBVTT 00:00:00.001 --> 00:00:01.200 Good evening, Drew. 00:00:01.200 --> 00:00:02.400 How the hell are ya? 00:00:02.400 --> 00:00:03.440 Hi, Paul. 00:00:03.440 --> 00:00:04.800 Hi, Paul. 00:00:04.800 --> 00:00:05.120 Um 00:00:05.600 --> 00:00:08.960 boy, I hope I don't say something that gets me fired tonight. 00:00:09.280 --> 00:00:09.600 Oh 00:00:10.480 --> 00:00:11.520 boy. 00:00:11.520 --> 00:00:12.080 Yeah. 00:00:13.420 --> 00:00:16.700 Work is hard, you know. 00:00:16.700 --> 00:00:17.900 How are you? 00:00:21.320 --> 00:00:21.800 I'm 00:00:21.960 --> 00:00:22.760 I'm still alive. 00:00:24.360 --> 00:00:24.600 Uh-huh. 00:00:24.600 --> 00:00:26.600 I saw yeah, making a guest appearance. 00:00:26.600 --> 00:00:27.080 Yep. 00:00:27.080 --> 00:00:27.640 Yeah. 00:00:27.640 --> 00:00:30.119 He is uh he is full of beans tonight. 00:00:30.119 --> 00:00:30.279 He 00:00:31.820 --> 00:00:31.980 He has 00:00:32.220 --> 00:00:33.900 he has a lot on his mind, don't you buddy? 00:00:34.300 --> 00:00:34.860 I get that. 00:00:34.860 --> 00:00:35.340 I get that. 00:00:35.340 --> 00:00:36.860 Yeah, no, it's uh yeah. 00:00:36.860 --> 00:00:37.660 Oh yeah. 00:00:37.660 --> 00:00:38.300 Hey buddy 00:00:38.780 --> 00:00:39.020 is 00:00:40.780 --> 00:00:42.460 Why don't you go lay down? 00:00:42.460 --> 00:00:42.700 Dad 00:00:42.860 --> 00:00:43.900 dad's busy 00:00:44.200 --> 00:00:45.239 All right. 00:00:45.640 --> 00:00:46.360 Bye. 00:00:46.360 --> 00:00:47.079 Bye. 00:00:47.079 --> 00:00:47.800 Yeah. 00:00:47.800 --> 00:00:48.120 Oh 00:00:48.280 --> 00:00:48.520 yeah. 00:00:48.840 --> 00:00:49.239 Anyway. 00:00:49.800 --> 00:00:50.120 Just work 00:00:50.840 --> 00:00:52.840 is stressful at the moment, but that's okay. 00:00:52.840 --> 00:00:53.640 That's okay. 00:00:54.120 --> 00:00:54.760 Uh 00:00:55.540 --> 00:00:56.180 Yeah 00:00:56.660 --> 00:00:56.980 Yeah 00:00:57.140 --> 00:00:59.140 I I'm I'm in I'm in the exact same boat. 00:00:59.140 --> 00:01:00.500 I'm in the exact same boat. 00:01:00.500 --> 00:01:00.820 Okay. 00:01:00.820 --> 00:01:01.620 Yeah. 00:01:01.620 --> 00:01:01.940 Oh 00:01:03.020 --> 00:01:03.820 All right. 00:01:03.820 --> 00:01:04.140 So 00:01:04.860 --> 00:01:06.860 when we last left our hero 00:01:07.420 --> 00:01:07.740 , 00:01:08.060 --> 00:01:08.540 Hero 00:01:10.700 --> 00:01:14.780 He was about to spend a lot of money to build a flight sim 00:01:15.340 --> 00:01:16.300 rig. 00:01:17.299 --> 00:01:20.500 I see a bunch of stuff behind you. 00:01:22.420 --> 00:01:24.020 What's going on there, Drew? 00:01:24.340 --> 00:01:25.220 Alright. 00:01:25.220 --> 00:01:25.540 So 00:01:25.940 --> 00:01:26.420 let's 00:01:26.740 --> 00:01:27.060 let's 00:01:27.220 --> 00:01:28.500 let's talk about it. 00:01:28.500 --> 00:01:29.460 Okay. 00:01:30.320 --> 00:01:30.560 And 00:01:30.799 --> 00:01:31.439 one day 00:01:31.600 --> 00:01:32.240 aliens 00:01:32.560 --> 00:01:33.200 are going 00:01:33.360 --> 00:01:36.960 to find the remains of our civilization. 00:01:36.960 --> 00:01:39.600 They will find burned out cities, they 00:01:39.840 --> 00:01:40.880 will find our 00:01:41.119 --> 00:01:41.759 bones 00:01:42.159 --> 00:01:43.920 and our monuments. 00:01:44.460 --> 00:01:45.100 And our 00:01:45.420 --> 00:01:46.940 our stuff. 00:01:48.140 --> 00:01:48.460 And 00:01:48.620 --> 00:01:50.700 I firmly believe that 00:01:51.340 --> 00:01:52.940 digital data will 00:01:53.100 --> 00:01:55.260 survive the apocalypse. 00:01:56.120 --> 00:02:00.760 And these aliens will find a way to take our data and view it. 00:02:00.760 --> 00:02:05.080 And eventually they will stumble upon this podcast episode. 00:02:05.620 --> 00:02:06.660 With a video 00:02:06.900 --> 00:02:11.220 of a giant chair full of controls behind me. 00:02:11.540 --> 00:02:12.660 There's a lot going on there. 00:02:12.660 --> 00:02:12.980 Yeah. 00:02:12.980 --> 00:02:13.700 It's a lot. 00:02:13.700 --> 00:02:14.340 There's there is 00:02:14.500 --> 00:02:16.420 there is a lot going on there 00:02:17.820 --> 00:02:17.980 Ta 00:02:18.140 --> 00:02:18.700 -da! 00:02:20.140 --> 00:02:23.260 We're primarily an audio podcast, but I recommend just go to YouTube 00:02:23.420 --> 00:02:23.900 for this one. 00:02:24.060 --> 00:02:24.300 Check the 00:02:24.460 --> 00:02:25.100 check this one out. 00:02:25.100 --> 00:02:25.740 Check this one out. 00:02:25.740 --> 00:02:29.420 I'm gonna I'm gonna send you some pictures because I was I was actually gonna like 00:02:30.000 --> 00:02:33.120 What I thought about doing, but again, we're an audio podcast. 00:02:33.200 --> 00:02:38.000 I thought about actually taking the podcast from over there. 00:02:38.000 --> 00:02:42.560 Because what I could have done is I could put on the Steam frame and use virtual desktop. 00:02:42.560 --> 00:02:42.960 Mm-hmm 00:02:43.260 --> 00:02:43.660 Oh but 00:02:43.980 --> 00:02:44.540 yeah. 00:02:44.540 --> 00:02:44.940 Okay. 00:02:44.940 --> 00:02:45.500 Yeah. 00:02:45.500 --> 00:02:45.580 And 00:02:45.740 --> 00:02:45.900 got 00:02:46.060 --> 00:02:47.420 a microphone on it and the whole thing. 00:02:47.420 --> 00:02:48.780 But it would have sounded like shit. 00:02:48.780 --> 00:02:49.100 Yeah. 00:02:49.100 --> 00:02:49.420 Yeah. 00:02:49.420 --> 00:02:49.980 Okay. 00:02:49.980 --> 00:02:50.620 Okay. 00:02:50.620 --> 00:02:50.940 So 00:02:51.340 --> 00:02:53.260 If you go one episode back, 00:02:53.660 --> 00:02:56.940 required listening to fully appreciate what we're about to talk about 00:02:57.100 --> 00:03:01.660 is going to require you to go back at least to the show notes of the previous 00:03:02.640 --> 00:03:03.360 show 00:03:03.680 --> 00:03:04.000 and 00:03:04.240 --> 00:03:08.640 look at the list of things in the show notes about what I was going to buy. 00:03:08.640 --> 00:03:09.760 Okay. 00:03:09.760 --> 00:03:10.080 So 00:03:10.560 --> 00:03:10.880 this 00:03:11.120 --> 00:03:12.640 is the finished product. 00:03:12.640 --> 00:03:13.040 Okay. 00:03:13.040 --> 00:03:13.680 Okay. 00:03:13.680 --> 00:03:13.920 This 00:03:14.160 --> 00:03:15.440 all arrived 00:03:16.000 --> 00:03:17.120 Last week. 00:03:17.120 --> 00:03:17.760 Okay. 00:03:18.080 --> 00:03:18.400 So 00:03:18.560 --> 00:03:21.840 after we recorded last time, I decided, you know what? 00:03:21.840 --> 00:03:23.040 I'm gonna live a little bit. 00:03:23.040 --> 00:03:24.880 I'm gonna order all this stuff. 00:03:25.040 --> 00:03:27.200 And I placed the order with SimLab 00:03:27.360 --> 00:03:28.240 for the chair. 00:03:28.240 --> 00:03:28.560 So 00:03:28.880 --> 00:03:33.840 the chair, the gray chair, the frame, and all of these 00:03:34.160 --> 00:03:35.920 support items 00:03:36.160 --> 00:03:38.000 is what came with the chair. 00:03:38.000 --> 00:03:39.760 Okay. 00:03:39.960 --> 00:03:40.600 And then 00:03:40.840 --> 00:03:47.320 the electronics, all the buttons, the screens, which you can't see, but I'll send you a better picture of. 00:03:48.040 --> 00:03:48.920 The panels 00:03:49.159 --> 00:03:55.799 that are over there, because there's a couple panels off to the side that is on like some extension poles over there. 00:03:55.799 --> 00:03:58.680 All of that showed up later in the week. 00:03:59.260 --> 00:04:02.300 Alright, so I want to break this down into 00:04:02.540 --> 00:04:04.220 three acts. 00:04:04.220 --> 00:04:08.060 The first act is going to be building the chair. 00:04:08.040 --> 00:04:10.680 The second act is going to be wiring 00:04:11.000 --> 00:04:11.640 up and 00:04:11.960 --> 00:04:12.600 losing 00:04:12.920 --> 00:04:13.880 my absolute 00:04:14.040 --> 00:04:14.680 shit 00:04:14.920 --> 00:04:18.280 over the cable management involved in having 00:04:18.920 --> 00:04:26.920 One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, plus three more. 00:04:26.920 --> 00:04:28.120 Twelve. 00:04:28.480 --> 00:04:30.320 cables that you have to manage. 00:04:30.320 --> 00:04:32.960 And I don't know if it's coming through, but I've done 00:04:33.120 --> 00:04:33.440 about 00:04:33.600 --> 00:04:34.400 as I'm going 00:04:34.560 --> 00:04:36.160 about as good as I'm going to do 00:04:36.320 --> 00:04:38.480 routing the cables along the frame. 00:04:38.480 --> 00:04:39.680 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:04:39.680 --> 00:04:40.400 Okay. 00:04:40.920 --> 00:04:43.240 Then I want to talk about how 00:04:43.560 --> 00:04:46.040 I didn't want to put it in this room. 00:04:46.840 --> 00:04:47.320 Okay, I 00:04:47.480 --> 00:04:47.640 that 00:04:47.880 --> 00:04:48.040 that 00:04:48.200 --> 00:04:52.040 I I thought that was the case, but I didn't want to say anything. 00:04:52.040 --> 00:04:54.040 I don't want to make things worse. 00:04:53.840 --> 00:04:54.160 Okay. 00:04:54.640 --> 00:04:55.920 You're not making anything worse. 00:04:55.920 --> 00:04:56.480 Okay, okay. 00:04:56.480 --> 00:04:57.680 You're you're not making anything worse. 00:04:58.080 --> 00:04:59.600 That wasn't where it was supposed to go. 00:04:59.600 --> 00:05:01.440 That wasn't where it was supposed to go. 00:05:01.440 --> 00:05:02.880 It was supposed to go out there 00:05:03.040 --> 00:05:04.320 where I had more room. 00:05:04.320 --> 00:05:04.880 Uh-huh. 00:05:04.880 --> 00:05:07.760 It was gonna be your secret shame, not your public shame. 00:05:07.760 --> 00:05:08.560 Right. 00:05:08.340 --> 00:05:09.940 the shame that my wife cries 00:05:10.100 --> 00:05:11.460 herself to sleep about. 00:05:11.460 --> 00:05:13.780 Right. 00:05:13.780 --> 00:05:14.020 And 00:05:14.180 --> 00:05:21.380 I I I have to be honest, fully assembled, it does occupy a corner of my office. 00:05:21.420 --> 00:05:23.340 But it's not completely outrageous. 00:05:23.340 --> 00:05:25.500 It's not as big as I thought it was gonna be. 00:05:25.500 --> 00:05:27.340 No, no, it's not. 00:05:27.340 --> 00:05:28.060 Title. 00:05:28.060 --> 00:05:29.180 Title. 00:05:29.180 --> 00:05:30.140 Title. 00:05:30.760 --> 00:05:33.000 Or I'm sure that's where they don't want it to go. 00:05:34.280 --> 00:05:35.240 Either one of those works. 00:05:35.240 --> 00:05:36.760 We'll come back to that. 00:05:37.880 --> 00:05:38.760 Okay. 00:05:38.760 --> 00:05:39.000 So 00:05:39.320 --> 00:05:41.160 the chair showed up in 00:05:41.920 --> 00:05:42.960 Three boxes. 00:05:42.960 --> 00:05:45.840 The first was the huge box that has the chair. 00:05:45.840 --> 00:05:46.160 Now 00:05:46.400 --> 00:05:49.120 the chair itself is very comfortable. 00:05:49.120 --> 00:05:49.760 Very 00:05:49.920 --> 00:05:51.040 comfortable. 00:05:52.099 --> 00:05:54.340 It does come with a cover 00:05:54.500 --> 00:05:55.379 if you don't want to put 00:05:55.539 --> 00:05:58.340 if you want to keep like dust off it and things like that. 00:05:58.340 --> 00:05:58.580 And 00:05:58.740 --> 00:06:02.900 and it's what isn't visible here is that chair is fully adjustable. 00:06:02.900 --> 00:06:06.259 And by fully adjustable I mean it has recline. 00:06:06.300 --> 00:06:12.060 And it and it's on tracks underneath the frame, so you can slide it forward and back. 00:06:12.060 --> 00:06:12.540 Pretty 00:06:12.699 --> 00:06:13.180 pretty nice. 00:06:13.180 --> 00:06:14.620 I did not expect that 00:06:16.060 --> 00:06:16.380 So 00:06:17.740 --> 00:06:20.140 it it came in it came in the three boxes. 00:06:20.140 --> 00:06:25.740 The the main box was the chair and the subframe, which is like the little legs that are underneath it. 00:06:25.840 --> 00:06:31.120 Then there was a box specifically for this instrument panel in the front. 00:06:31.120 --> 00:06:33.360 And then there was a separate frame 00:06:33.900 --> 00:06:35.660 for the panel off to 00:06:35.820 --> 00:06:37.180 I guess that would be 00:06:37.340 --> 00:06:37.500 m 00:06:37.740 --> 00:06:37.980 my 00:06:38.300 --> 00:06:38.860 right, your 00:06:39.020 --> 00:06:39.340 left 00:06:39.500 --> 00:06:41.020 right now. 00:06:42.160 --> 00:06:44.240 And it's really nice because 00:06:45.280 --> 00:06:50.320 again, the webcam doesn't do it justice, but the frame itself is completely modular. 00:06:50.420 --> 00:06:54.340 Everything you see that is silver slides into different T 00:06:54.500 --> 00:06:59.300 joints or different joints that just have a really simple set screw like Allen 00:06:59.460 --> 00:07:00.500 Wrench. 00:07:00.420 --> 00:07:01.700 kind of configuration 00:07:01.940 --> 00:07:02.260 so 00:07:02.500 --> 00:07:04.260 I can adjust the 00:07:04.420 --> 00:07:08.500 the width of the controls, I can adjust the depth of the controls. 00:07:08.820 --> 00:07:16.100 Down here on the floor where the rudder pedals are, there's an arm that can extend forward and back if I want it to go out further or lower, 00:07:16.260 --> 00:07:17.220 whatever. 00:07:17.940 --> 00:07:18.740 Very very 00:07:18.900 --> 00:07:20.020 very very nice. 00:07:20.020 --> 00:07:21.460 It did not take long to build. 00:07:21.460 --> 00:07:23.300 It was a lot of boxes. 00:07:23.300 --> 00:07:23.620 And 00:07:23.780 --> 00:07:25.940 the other nice thing about it is 00:07:26.259 --> 00:07:28.180 I have a very specific 00:07:28.500 --> 00:07:29.300 throttle. 00:07:29.300 --> 00:07:31.860 I have a very specific flight stick. 00:07:31.880 --> 00:07:32.520 There are 00:07:33.080 --> 00:07:33.320 there 00:07:33.560 --> 00:07:33.720 are 00:07:33.960 --> 00:07:35.639 different plates that 00:07:35.960 --> 00:07:36.600 go on 00:07:36.919 --> 00:07:40.120 those arms that accommodate different things. 00:07:40.120 --> 00:07:44.120 So if I decide to upgrade or change any of that. 00:07:44.400 --> 00:07:49.200 One, I probably already have the plate because the base chair ships with probably the most 00:07:49.360 --> 00:07:50.960 compatible ones. 00:07:50.960 --> 00:07:56.960 But if I do go for something more niche, I could order plates and they're like 30 bucks. 00:07:57.340 --> 00:07:57.660 So 00:07:58.380 --> 00:08:03.660 after about, I don't know, maybe three hours of futzing around, I had the chair built. 00:08:03.660 --> 00:08:09.820 And also what you can't see is, you know, I guess the closest thing to describe it is 00:08:10.240 --> 00:08:16.000 You know how razor scooters have those wheels that are like gel, but they're kind of hard plastic. 00:08:16.000 --> 00:08:16.880 You know what I mean? 00:08:16.880 --> 00:08:17.920 Yeah, yeah 00:08:18.039 --> 00:08:20.360 On the back of the chair are wheels. 00:08:20.360 --> 00:08:21.800 So you can kind of lift it up and wheel. 00:08:22.039 --> 00:08:24.440 You can lift the front of it up and wheel it in. 00:08:24.440 --> 00:08:27.479 And when I get to the part of the story about why it's in here. 00:08:29.280 --> 00:08:32.400 All I had to do was take off the arm 00:08:32.880 --> 00:08:38.880 on the left side of the chair because it sticks out a little further because of that panel, and I was able to wheel the whole thing through my door. 00:08:39.820 --> 00:08:40.140 So 00:08:40.460 --> 00:08:42.219 actually pretty maneuverable. 00:08:42.219 --> 00:08:44.860 Not that heavy because this is all aluminum. 00:08:45.180 --> 00:08:45.660 Nice. 00:08:45.660 --> 00:08:47.180 Or mo I guess mostly aluminum. 00:08:47.180 --> 00:08:53.180 I think some of the other frame is steel, but the arms that are silver are aluminum, so it saves a little bit of weight 00:08:53.760 --> 00:08:56.000 And you'll also see that there are 00:08:56.320 --> 00:08:57.280 numerous 00:08:57.440 --> 00:09:04.000 adjustment knobs, which again are just tension to where it isn't a set screw like the mainframe. 00:09:04.220 --> 00:09:09.180 It basically has those things you loosen and you can slide it up and down and then re-tighten it. 00:09:09.180 --> 00:09:11.580 So you can really get yourself in there 00:09:11.820 --> 00:09:13.900 exactly how you want to be 00:09:14.140 --> 00:09:15.500 to use it. 00:09:15.940 --> 00:09:16.899 Okay. 00:09:16.899 --> 00:09:17.540 So then 00:09:17.779 --> 00:09:18.899 a few days later 00:09:19.060 --> 00:09:21.940 all the electronics showed up. 00:09:21.940 --> 00:09:22.260 And 00:09:23.620 --> 00:09:26.420 That was a whole lot of Chinese, man. 00:09:27.459 --> 00:09:28.100 Yeah. 00:09:28.100 --> 00:09:28.740 Okay. 00:09:28.740 --> 00:09:30.019 It was a whole lot of Chinese. 00:09:30.019 --> 00:09:34.420 Now I didn't pay any tariffs because it's shipped from a US warehouse. 00:09:34.440 --> 00:09:39.560 But when I got all the boxes, they were all individually wrapped with seals 00:09:39.880 --> 00:09:41.960 and a lot of Chinese lettering on them. 00:09:41.960 --> 00:09:43.000 Yeah. 00:09:43.620 --> 00:09:43.940 And 00:09:44.100 --> 00:09:46.820 when I ordered my chair, I ordered the 00:09:46.980 --> 00:09:51.780 the equipment that I could mount it directly to the frame, which is what you're seeing here. 00:09:57.040 --> 00:09:57.760 doing that. 00:09:57.760 --> 00:09:58.959 I kept all that 00:09:59.120 --> 00:10:04.880 and it came with all the required screws and mounting hardware and all that stuff. 00:10:05.660 --> 00:10:09.980 You know, there was a lot of pissing around, uh, mostly just because 00:10:10.620 --> 00:10:13.819 everything came in major pieces. 00:10:13.800 --> 00:10:16.920 And when I'm when I send you the pictures, you'll be able to see it more. 00:10:16.920 --> 00:10:17.400 But the 00:10:17.640 --> 00:10:23.080 the three quadrants that are actually monitors, they're legit like computer monitors. 00:10:23.080 --> 00:10:25.560 That's how they're recognized by your computer. 00:10:26.399 --> 00:10:27.360 those have 00:10:27.519 --> 00:10:27.759 uh 00:10:27.920 --> 00:10:32.720 a panel that you screw onto it that adds buttons all the way around it. 00:10:32.720 --> 00:10:33.040 So 00:10:33.839 --> 00:10:40.880 I had to put that together and then screw all of that to the frame and then run separate power cords for the buttons 00:10:41.120 --> 00:10:42.720 and then a power cord for the 00:10:43.240 --> 00:10:43.880 monitor connect 00:10:44.120 --> 00:10:46.360 a power cord for the monitor connection 00:10:46.680 --> 00:10:47.320 and then 00:10:47.480 --> 00:10:50.920 a USB cable that actually acts as the monitor connection. 00:10:50.920 --> 00:10:54.280 So each one of those panels has three wires coming off of it. 00:10:54.480 --> 00:10:55.040 Wow. 00:10:55.040 --> 00:10:55.520 Okay. 00:10:55.520 --> 00:10:56.000 Yeah. 00:10:56.000 --> 00:10:56.160 So 00:10:56.320 --> 00:11:01.600 getting all that wired up, getting it all connected, getting all that stuff ready to go. 00:11:02.240 --> 00:11:03.840 All right, that's act one. 00:11:04.400 --> 00:11:05.040 Okay. 00:11:05.040 --> 00:11:06.800 Let's go to act two. 00:11:07.360 --> 00:11:07.680 And 00:11:08.080 --> 00:11:09.280 cable management. 00:11:09.280 --> 00:11:10.880 Cable management. 00:11:11.440 --> 00:11:11.600 So 00:11:12.800 --> 00:11:16.320 the only thing they give you for cable management are Velcro 00:11:16.560 --> 00:11:17.440 ties. 00:11:18.560 --> 00:11:20.480 Well, at least they gave you something. 00:11:20.480 --> 00:11:21.360 Yeah. 00:11:21.420 --> 00:11:24.860 There really isn't anywhere else to put anything. 00:11:24.860 --> 00:11:25.819 It's not like 00:11:26.139 --> 00:11:26.459 these 00:11:26.779 --> 00:11:27.339 poles 00:11:27.660 --> 00:11:29.660 have caps on them. 00:11:29.720 --> 00:11:32.360 So you could like possibly run the cables through? 00:11:32.760 --> 00:11:35.960 Conceivably you would think so, but the answer is no. 00:11:35.960 --> 00:11:36.200 Oh 00:11:36.520 --> 00:11:37.480 okay. 00:11:42.000 --> 00:11:45.120 And for the main instrument panel, there's a lot of wires. 00:11:45.120 --> 00:11:46.880 They're not going to go in there gracefully. 00:11:46.880 --> 00:11:48.720 They're not going to go in there gracefully. 00:11:48.720 --> 00:11:50.880 What I ultimately, and and 00:11:51.280 --> 00:11:51.600 and 00:11:51.760 --> 00:11:53.600 for reasons we'll get into later. 00:11:53.759 --> 00:11:55.920 I have a power strip also 00:11:56.240 --> 00:11:57.120 here. 00:11:57.120 --> 00:11:57.759 I have 00:11:58.399 --> 00:11:58.720 two 00:11:59.279 --> 00:12:01.519 USB hubs. 00:12:01.600 --> 00:12:02.480 Get it. 00:12:02.480 --> 00:12:03.360 Yep. 00:12:03.740 --> 00:12:04.780 And for a while 00:12:04.940 --> 00:12:11.660 I also had another device that is no longer in the setup, again, for reasons we'll get into later. 00:12:11.660 --> 00:12:11.980 So 00:12:12.380 --> 00:12:13.020 after 00:12:13.260 --> 00:12:16.940 several days of figuring out the best way to do this 00:12:17.680 --> 00:12:19.440 What's that noise? 00:12:19.440 --> 00:12:20.000 Uh 00:12:20.480 --> 00:12:22.560 there's a lot going on in the Baylor household 00:12:22.720 --> 00:12:23.120 right now. 00:12:23.120 --> 00:12:24.560 That is the little song my oven 00:12:24.720 --> 00:12:25.200 makes. 00:12:25.200 --> 00:12:27.760 Okay, alright. 00:12:27.760 --> 00:12:28.880 All right. 00:12:29.060 --> 00:12:29.540 Okay. 00:12:29.540 --> 00:12:29.940 Alright. 00:12:29.940 --> 00:12:32.020 I wanted to make sure it wasn't something in my house. 00:12:32.020 --> 00:12:32.820 No, no, no. 00:12:32.820 --> 00:12:37.540 That my my stove likes to sing a little song when it's all when it's all nice, toasty, warm. 00:12:37.540 --> 00:12:38.020 Okay. 00:12:38.020 --> 00:12:39.060 Meanwhile, Vito 00:12:39.220 --> 00:12:39.380 is 00:12:39.640 --> 00:12:41.240 Expressing his opinions upstairs. 00:12:41.240 --> 00:12:42.120 I apologize. 00:12:42.120 --> 00:12:43.720 That's okay. 00:12:44.520 --> 00:12:47.400 Ultimately what I ended up doing is uh 00:12:47.800 --> 00:12:51.320 shout out to 3M command strips because they're amazing. 00:12:51.240 --> 00:12:51.400 So 00:12:51.560 --> 00:12:52.440 on the back of the chair 00:12:52.600 --> 00:12:57.640 at the very very back I put down some command strips and I essentially command stripped a 00:12:57.880 --> 00:12:59.800 surge protector on the back of it. 00:12:59.820 --> 00:13:00.380 Okay. 00:13:00.380 --> 00:13:00.540 So 00:13:01.100 --> 00:13:03.660 everything that needs a plug goes back there. 00:13:03.660 --> 00:13:08.780 All the wires come down the mainframe from the main instrument cluster. 00:13:08.780 --> 00:13:12.380 That's also where it meets the wire for the rudder. 00:13:12.520 --> 00:13:16.760 Then you have the wire that comes from the left side, which is just the stick. 00:13:16.760 --> 00:13:18.040 That's a single wire. 00:13:18.040 --> 00:13:23.240 Over on the other side, you have the cable for the throttle, and then you have the cable for the 00:13:24.040 --> 00:13:26.120 What is essentially the landing gear cluster? 00:13:26.120 --> 00:13:28.120 So there's two wires that come off of that side. 00:13:28.120 --> 00:13:29.880 Everything meets in the middle. 00:13:29.880 --> 00:13:31.880 And I have a 3D printer. 00:13:31.880 --> 00:13:35.320 I found a really nice cable box. 00:13:35.960 --> 00:13:43.080 That I can use to sort of coil the cables up and then tuck some of that in there so then it goes into a cable box so it doesn't look so cluttered. 00:13:43.080 --> 00:13:44.840 Then it comes out of that 00:13:45.620 --> 00:13:48.500 And then there's another one behind it again 00:13:48.740 --> 00:13:50.420 that handles some of like 00:13:50.580 --> 00:13:54.339 the USB power cords, the USB extension cord, 00:13:54.980 --> 00:13:55.300 the 00:13:55.540 --> 00:13:59.700 power cord for the surge protector, all of that's back there. 00:14:00.380 --> 00:14:01.020 I really 00:14:01.260 --> 00:14:06.140 feel that is the limit of my capabilities to make that look acceptable. 00:14:06.140 --> 00:14:06.300 Hey 00:14:06.460 --> 00:14:07.180 Vito. 00:14:07.180 --> 00:14:07.500 Are you 00:14:07.740 --> 00:14:08.140 back? 00:14:08.700 --> 00:14:09.500 Okay. 00:14:09.740 --> 00:14:10.220 You're back. 00:14:10.380 --> 00:14:11.020 You wanna you wanna 00:14:11.260 --> 00:14:12.780 you wanna be on the podcast? 00:14:12.920 --> 00:14:13.240 Hey 00:14:13.399 --> 00:14:13.959 buddy. 00:14:13.959 --> 00:14:15.480 Yeah, I know you're barking. 00:14:15.480 --> 00:14:16.600 It's okay though. 00:14:16.600 --> 00:14:17.240 It's okay 00:14:17.399 --> 00:14:18.600 though. 00:14:18.600 --> 00:14:19.800 Okay, so 00:14:20.360 --> 00:14:23.000 that was like the cable management nightmare 00:14:22.960 --> 00:14:23.280 Now 00:14:23.440 --> 00:14:26.320 let's talk about why it's in here. 00:14:26.400 --> 00:14:28.400 Yeah, why is it in there, Drew? 00:14:28.400 --> 00:14:29.440 Okay. 00:14:29.440 --> 00:14:29.760 So 00:14:30.160 --> 00:14:33.840 prior to purchasing everything, I did a little research. 00:14:33.840 --> 00:14:34.160 Now 00:14:34.320 --> 00:14:37.360 my computer is in my office. 00:14:37.660 --> 00:14:38.700 I measured 00:14:38.860 --> 00:14:40.860 and it is approximately 00:14:43.020 --> 00:14:46.780 20 feet, give or take, to where I wanted the chair 00:14:46.940 --> 00:14:49.020 out in my main basement. 00:14:50.100 --> 00:14:52.100 They really don't make 00:14:52.740 --> 00:14:55.380 reliable USB 3. 00:14:55.380 --> 00:14:56.339 0 or 3. 00:14:56.339 --> 00:14:58.339 2 cables that are that long. 00:14:58.480 --> 00:14:59.360 Okay. 00:14:59.520 --> 00:14:59.760 So 00:15:00.000 --> 00:15:06.160 you have to find other ways to extend that data communication to that distance. 00:15:06.240 --> 00:15:12.880 And I remember one of the things we looked at last episode was basically USB over Ethernet. 00:15:12.740 --> 00:15:13.860 That's correct. 00:15:13.860 --> 00:15:14.100 So 00:15:14.420 --> 00:15:16.500 I pulled the trigger on that. 00:15:16.500 --> 00:15:16.900 Okay. 00:15:16.900 --> 00:15:19.220 And I'll put the link in the show notes. 00:15:19.220 --> 00:15:19.540 So 00:15:20.100 --> 00:15:22.180 is that the device that is no longer with us? 00:15:22.740 --> 00:15:25.380 That is the device that is no longer with us. 00:15:25.600 --> 00:15:27.920 So here's what happened. 00:15:27.920 --> 00:15:34.240 As I previously mentioned, each one of these things on the chair is a USB connection. 00:15:34.240 --> 00:15:34.720 Right. 00:15:34.720 --> 00:15:36.560 Every single one. 00:15:38.600 --> 00:15:40.839 Doubly so for the monitors, because 00:15:41.000 --> 00:15:45.240 yes, you can power the monitor with one USB connection. 00:15:45.460 --> 00:15:51.620 But as we will learn in this story, USB hubs can only power so much. 00:15:53.880 --> 00:15:55.000 Especially when uh 00:15:55.160 --> 00:15:56.600 especially when you're like 00:15:56.760 --> 00:16:01.000 powering a whole bunch of other stuff with a powered USB hub. 00:16:01.000 --> 00:16:01.320 Okay. 00:16:01.640 --> 00:16:01.880 Okay. 00:16:01.960 --> 00:16:02.200 So you 00:16:02.600 --> 00:16:04.600 you exceeded those limits, I'm guessing. 00:16:04.600 --> 00:16:05.240 Yeah. 00:16:06.279 --> 00:16:06.519 So 00:16:06.680 --> 00:16:06.839 I 00:16:07.000 --> 00:16:10.519 after everything was put together, I hooked up this device. 00:16:10.519 --> 00:16:15.080 Now for those of you that didn't do your homework or didn't listen to this. 00:16:15.320 --> 00:16:15.800 What this 00:16:15.960 --> 00:16:20.040 what this little device does is it connects to your computer with a USB-C 00:16:20.200 --> 00:16:22.120 cable. 00:16:22.120 --> 00:16:23.000 From there 00:16:23.560 --> 00:16:25.000 You plug in a cat 00:16:25.400 --> 00:16:26.120 5, cat 00:16:26.360 --> 00:16:27.000 6, cat 00:16:27.240 --> 00:16:31.640 11, whatever the fuck we're up to now in Ethernet spec. 00:16:32.399 --> 00:16:32.720 And 00:16:33.040 --> 00:16:33.360 you 00:16:33.680 --> 00:16:34.000 run 00:16:34.160 --> 00:16:37.040 the cable to where you want it to go. 00:16:37.040 --> 00:16:40.560 Then on the other end, there is a very similar box. 00:16:40.579 --> 00:16:43.380 And on that box are five 00:16:43.540 --> 00:16:44.500 things. 00:16:44.500 --> 00:16:46.500 The first thing is DC 00:16:46.740 --> 00:16:48.100 input for power 00:16:47.959 --> 00:16:51.480 So you have to you each each end of this is powered. 00:16:51.480 --> 00:16:52.120 The main 00:16:52.279 --> 00:16:55.480 box that plugs into your computer is just powered over USB. 00:16:55.480 --> 00:16:57.800 The remote box has its own power cord. 00:16:57.940 --> 00:16:59.220 Makes sense. 00:16:59.220 --> 00:17:04.180 Then there are three USB ports on what I guess is the back 00:17:05.140 --> 00:17:05.459 that 00:17:05.699 --> 00:17:06.339 are also 00:17:06.579 --> 00:17:10.740 powered, but then there is a higher powered USB port on the front. 00:17:10.740 --> 00:17:12.020 So there are four 00:17:12.419 --> 00:17:13.059 USB 00:17:13.299 --> 00:17:16.660 ports provided by this device. 00:17:16.660 --> 00:17:18.100 Alright, so 00:17:19.699 --> 00:17:20.660 the promise 00:17:20.980 --> 00:17:21.299 is 00:17:21.439 --> 00:17:23.600 That it supports USB 3. 00:17:23.600 --> 00:17:25.039 0 and USB 3. 00:17:25.039 --> 00:17:26.159 2 Gen 1 00:17:26.319 --> 00:17:29.200 with up to 5 gigs of data transfer. 00:17:29.200 --> 00:17:32.320 That should be more than enough bandwidth that I need. 00:17:32.320 --> 00:17:33.519 Seems like it. 00:17:33.620 --> 00:17:36.100 All right, so I plug all that in 00:17:36.260 --> 00:17:37.780 and just as a test 00:17:38.180 --> 00:17:43.940 I plugged in a USB hub to it because the documentation says, hey, you can use this with a USB hub. 00:17:43.840 --> 00:17:45.919 Plug in the USB hub and I start plugging 00:17:46.080 --> 00:17:46.960 in devices. 00:17:46.960 --> 00:17:51.520 So I plug in a couple of the panels, I plug in a couple of 00:17:51.679 --> 00:17:52.000 um 00:17:53.019 --> 00:17:55.260 You know, the controls or whatever. 00:17:55.260 --> 00:17:59.659 And everything is just rapidly turning off and on. 00:17:59.659 --> 00:17:59.980 So 00:18:00.539 --> 00:18:00.700 not 00:18:00.860 --> 00:18:01.419 good. 00:18:01.419 --> 00:18:02.139 Not great. 00:18:02.139 --> 00:18:02.700 Not great. 00:18:02.700 --> 00:18:02.860 So 00:18:03.640 --> 00:18:06.120 I start doing the thing that I do as an IT professional. 00:18:06.120 --> 00:18:07.080 I start troubleshooting. 00:18:07.080 --> 00:18:07.640 Troubleshooting. 00:18:07.640 --> 00:18:08.040 Yeah. 00:18:08.040 --> 00:18:10.680 Do you have a faulty device that's pulling too much power? 00:18:10.680 --> 00:18:11.000 All the 00:18:11.240 --> 00:18:11.400 like 00:18:11.560 --> 00:18:12.840 what's the yeah, what's the 00:18:13.080 --> 00:18:13.720 what's going on? 00:18:13.720 --> 00:18:14.040 Yeah. 00:18:14.040 --> 00:18:14.760 Yep. 00:18:14.760 --> 00:18:15.000 So 00:18:15.320 --> 00:18:15.640 I 00:18:16.240 --> 00:18:17.680 Went on to Beesbo's place 00:18:17.840 --> 00:18:20.400 and I ordered a couple different powered USB hubs. 00:18:20.400 --> 00:18:20.880 I thought 00:18:21.040 --> 00:18:24.960 clearly I'm gonna need multiple powered USB hubs to support all this. 00:18:25.660 --> 00:18:25.900 So 00:18:26.059 --> 00:18:26.860 I have I 00:18:27.100 --> 00:18:30.700 I essentially got three powered USB hubs, plug 00:18:30.860 --> 00:18:36.380 them into discrete ports on this device that acts as the extender for my computer. 00:18:36.800 --> 00:18:40.800 Plugged in power to them, and I started plugging in devices. 00:18:40.800 --> 00:18:45.840 And I got to a point where I got everything to light up except one thing. 00:18:46.019 --> 00:18:52.580 And it didn't matter what I did, I could not get the throttle to stay lit up. 00:18:52.580 --> 00:18:54.100 Didn't matter what I did. 00:18:54.100 --> 00:18:56.179 Now, what I also noticed was 00:18:56.419 --> 00:18:59.299 if I started disconnecting enough things. 00:18:59.620 --> 00:18:59.780 It 00:18:59.940 --> 00:19:01.060 would work. 00:19:01.060 --> 00:19:01.780 So I thought 00:19:02.260 --> 00:19:04.260 you still figure it's probably a power issue. 00:19:04.260 --> 00:19:05.540 There's not enough power for it to 00:19:06.100 --> 00:19:07.060 I thought that. 00:19:07.380 --> 00:19:09.060 But then I started thinking 00:19:10.700 --> 00:19:13.500 Is there some sort of incompatibility 00:19:14.460 --> 00:19:14.780 with 00:19:15.100 --> 00:19:15.420 this 00:19:15.740 --> 00:19:18.460 USB hub or this device or the device 00:19:18.620 --> 00:19:20.620 and the hub or the device the hub 00:19:20.940 --> 00:19:23.740 and the controller that I'm trying to use? 00:19:23.679 --> 00:19:27.120 So I disconnected everything but that and it worked. 00:19:27.120 --> 00:19:27.360 So 00:19:27.519 --> 00:19:28.159 I'm like 00:19:28.399 --> 00:19:29.840 really at my wit's end 00:19:30.000 --> 00:19:32.000 and did a little more research. 00:19:32.000 --> 00:19:33.120 Essentially 00:19:34.260 --> 00:19:39.460 These devices only support so much USB bandwidth at once. 00:19:40.019 --> 00:19:42.820 Even though it gives you that high rate, 00:19:43.299 --> 00:19:43.940 you only 00:19:44.500 --> 00:19:44.820 get 00:19:45.240 --> 00:19:45.400 And 00:19:45.560 --> 00:19:45.880 no I 00:19:46.120 --> 00:19:47.480 if I was connecting a f 00:19:47.640 --> 00:19:48.120 a couple 00:19:48.280 --> 00:19:50.440 devices, fine. 00:19:51.480 --> 00:19:53.720 One, two, three, four, five, 00:19:54.600 --> 00:19:56.600 six, seven, eight, nine, ten 00:19:56.840 --> 00:19:57.960 devices. 00:19:58.120 --> 00:19:59.400 three of which 00:19:59.720 --> 00:20:00.040 are 00:20:00.360 --> 00:20:02.680 monitors. 00:20:02.680 --> 00:20:04.040 And I even tried 00:20:04.200 --> 00:20:12.760 because in the documentation for the monitors, it says like, hey, if you don't have enough power on your USB, whatever. 00:20:12.519 --> 00:20:14.840 There is actually a USB-C 00:20:15.000 --> 00:20:18.760 connection on the back that you can plug into just for power. 00:20:18.760 --> 00:20:20.760 No data, just power. 00:20:20.760 --> 00:20:22.440 I even tried that. 00:20:22.440 --> 00:20:25.159 I I bought an anchor 00:20:26.260 --> 00:20:26.659 Charger 00:20:26.980 --> 00:20:33.460 essentially that has three USB-C ports on it, and that's what's actually powering the monitors independently. 00:20:33.460 --> 00:20:34.500 Still no dice. 00:20:34.500 --> 00:20:35.779 Could not get it to work. 00:20:36.360 --> 00:20:36.600 So 00:20:36.760 --> 00:20:40.040 I was like, well shit, is this not gonna work at all? 00:20:40.040 --> 00:20:41.320 Did I break something? 00:20:41.320 --> 00:20:42.840 Is something not working right? 00:20:42.840 --> 00:20:45.480 And it was at that point that I was like, well, fuck it. 00:20:45.480 --> 00:20:47.960 I'm just gonna wheel it into my room. 00:20:48.060 --> 00:20:48.220 And 00:20:48.380 --> 00:20:49.980 roll out the USB over either. 00:20:50.220 --> 00:20:51.580 Roll out the USB thing. 00:20:52.060 --> 00:20:53.020 So I have 00:20:53.340 --> 00:20:53.660 a 00:20:53.900 --> 00:20:54.620 six-foot 00:20:54.940 --> 00:20:55.740 USB 00:20:55.900 --> 00:20:56.140 A 00:20:56.460 --> 00:20:56.780 male 00:20:56.940 --> 00:20:58.140 to female. 00:20:58.400 --> 00:21:02.480 Plug that into one of the better USB ports, like a USB 3. 00:21:02.480 --> 00:21:03.440 2 or 3. 00:21:03.440 --> 00:21:06.320 1 port on the back of my computer. 00:21:06.320 --> 00:21:09.840 I'm still using two hubs, one powered, one 00:21:10.080 --> 00:21:10.800 not. 00:21:11.019 --> 00:21:11.419 Okay. 00:21:11.419 --> 00:21:13.179 And it it works flawlessly. 00:21:13.179 --> 00:21:14.700 Huh. 00:21:14.700 --> 00:21:14.860 Well, 00:21:15.340 --> 00:21:15.980 works flawlessly. 00:21:16.299 --> 00:21:16.380 I mean 00:21:16.539 --> 00:21:16.620 , 00:21:17.179 --> 00:21:18.940 it works, but I'm glad I'm I'm 00:21:19.519 --> 00:21:22.320 Sad that the USB over Ethernet didn't work. 00:21:22.639 --> 00:21:23.760 That would have been my first like 00:21:23.919 --> 00:21:26.080 that's exactly where my brain went when you have this problem 00:21:26.240 --> 00:21:27.919 is like, well, USB over Ethernet. 00:21:27.919 --> 00:21:28.080 Right. 00:21:28.399 --> 00:21:29.200 That's what that's for. 00:21:29.260 --> 00:21:31.260 And look, it's it's troubleshooting one 00:21:31.419 --> 00:21:31.900 oh one. 00:21:31.900 --> 00:21:34.860 You just start taking things out of it until it gets 00:21:35.179 --> 00:21:35.980 until you f until 00:21:36.140 --> 00:21:37.100 you solve the problem 00:21:37.060 --> 00:21:40.980 And what I had done before I even did that, but I got impatient, is 00:21:41.140 --> 00:21:46.180 I started thinking, well, do I need multiple of these devices to support what I want to do? 00:21:46.180 --> 00:21:47.540 Maybe that's what I need. 00:21:47.540 --> 00:21:47.860 And 00:21:48.240 --> 00:21:54.400 Maybe there'll be a point in my in my life where I come back and revisit that if I ever move or I need to do something. 00:21:54.400 --> 00:21:54.720 But 00:21:54.880 --> 00:21:55.840 I will say 00:21:56.080 --> 00:21:59.440 that I did also buy this, but this is getting returned. 00:21:59.440 --> 00:22:01.280 This is the same thing. 00:22:01.240 --> 00:22:03.560 Except it's just USB 2. 00:22:03.560 --> 00:22:04.360 0. 00:22:04.360 --> 00:22:04.920 Oh. 00:22:04.920 --> 00:22:06.760 Oh yeah, it's much, much cheaper. 00:22:06.760 --> 00:22:07.240 Yeah. 00:22:07.240 --> 00:22:07.960 Much cheaper. 00:22:07.960 --> 00:22:09.240 It's USB 2. 00:22:09.240 --> 00:22:09.640 0. 00:22:09.640 --> 00:22:13.880 I don't even think it's powered on both on one of the ends. 00:22:13.919 --> 00:22:15.039 But the idea would be 00:22:15.200 --> 00:22:16.480 this is what I would plug 00:22:16.640 --> 00:22:17.520 kind of the 00:22:17.840 --> 00:22:20.799 things that don't really require that much power. 00:22:21.280 --> 00:22:21.840 You know? 00:22:21.840 --> 00:22:22.640 Okay. 00:22:22.460 --> 00:22:25.580 So you could have one for the one that really requires USB three 00:22:25.740 --> 00:22:27.900 and then all the other peripherals can go USB two. 00:22:28.220 --> 00:22:28.540 Right. 00:22:28.540 --> 00:22:33.180 Splitting out maybe just enough that I could get past that bandwidth issue 00:22:33.340 --> 00:22:34.940 to make it work. 00:22:35.440 --> 00:22:35.760 So 00:22:36.320 --> 00:22:39.360 again, this is kind of where it is right now. 00:22:39.360 --> 00:22:40.720 I'm sort of done fucking around. 00:22:40.720 --> 00:22:41.840 I want to enjoy it. 00:22:41.840 --> 00:22:42.160 So 00:22:42.480 --> 00:22:44.880 it's where it needs to be for now. 00:22:44.880 --> 00:22:48.320 But in the future, I think that's probably what has to happen. 00:22:49.040 --> 00:22:51.520 Now, the last thing I want to mention is 00:22:51.680 --> 00:22:54.160 all of this requires software. 00:22:54.160 --> 00:22:54.400 Oh 00:22:57.200 --> 00:22:58.000 boy. 00:22:58.000 --> 00:22:58.400 How did 00:22:58.720 --> 00:22:59.280 Yeah, uh 00:22:59.520 --> 00:23:00.080 okay. 00:23:00.080 --> 00:23:00.240 So 00:23:00.400 --> 00:23:03.360 a lot of these devices came from China. 00:23:03.060 --> 00:23:03.460 So how 00:23:03.700 --> 00:23:05.940 what's the software situation like there, Drew? 00:23:05.940 --> 00:23:06.660 Oh, okay. 00:23:06.660 --> 00:23:06.820 So 00:23:06.980 --> 00:23:07.060 there 00:23:07.700 --> 00:23:10.900 you have things you regret installing on your computer running? 00:23:11.860 --> 00:23:13.300 Maybe. 00:23:13.860 --> 00:23:14.020 You 00:23:14.180 --> 00:23:14.500 might have 00:23:14.740 --> 00:23:17.860 Bitcoin for the People's Republic of China. 00:23:18.419 --> 00:23:18.740 So 00:23:18.980 --> 00:23:19.299 the 00:23:19.539 --> 00:23:20.179 the main 00:23:20.419 --> 00:23:23.779 application that you use is this thing called Simap 00:23:24.100 --> 00:23:24.740 Pro. 00:23:25.620 --> 00:23:25.860 Now 00:23:26.019 --> 00:23:28.500 credit where credit's due. 00:23:29.240 --> 00:23:32.280 I will say that the software is awful. 00:23:32.280 --> 00:23:33.640 I didn't know people actually use 00:23:33.799 --> 00:23:34.280 Times New 00:23:34.440 --> 00:23:36.520 Roman in UIs. 00:23:37.260 --> 00:23:38.220 It's a choice. 00:23:38.220 --> 00:23:40.620 It's it's a choice, but it's called Simap 00:23:40.780 --> 00:23:41.020 Pro. 00:23:41.020 --> 00:23:42.460 I'll put a link in in the show notes. 00:23:42.460 --> 00:23:43.900 You'll you'll never install this. 00:23:43.900 --> 00:23:44.780 You'll you'll you'll need 00:23:45.260 --> 00:23:45.740 you'll never 00:23:45.900 --> 00:23:47.020 install this. 00:23:48.020 --> 00:23:48.340 And 00:23:48.980 --> 00:23:49.300 what 00:23:49.620 --> 00:23:51.220 this thing does is 00:23:51.460 --> 00:23:52.740 number one, it 00:23:53.620 --> 00:23:54.500 it actually 00:23:54.900 --> 00:23:55.220 so 00:23:55.380 --> 00:23:59.300 so it so here's here's the dirty little secret about how all this works. 00:24:01.460 --> 00:24:03.460 Most of this stuff 00:24:04.020 --> 00:24:07.860 is just a USB controller that has inputs. 00:24:07.860 --> 00:24:09.700 It's not remapping keys. 00:24:09.700 --> 00:24:11.140 They it's kind of like a joystick. 00:24:11.140 --> 00:24:13.460 It it shows up in Windows as a joystick. 00:24:13.240 --> 00:24:13.320 with 00:24:13.480 --> 00:24:16.120 discrete buttons, if it has twisty knobs, they have access 00:24:16.360 --> 00:24:17.320 they have accesses 00:24:17.480 --> 00:24:18.200 and things like that. 00:24:18.200 --> 00:24:19.960 Okay. 00:24:19.960 --> 00:24:20.280 Now 00:24:20.440 --> 00:24:22.600 if all I was doing was just having something that has 00:24:22.760 --> 00:24:25.160 buttons, I probably wouldn't need this. 00:24:25.640 --> 00:24:25.800 But 00:24:26.760 --> 00:24:27.800 a lot of these things 00:24:27.960 --> 00:24:29.480 in here, let me send you a picture 00:24:29.800 --> 00:24:30.120 because 00:24:30.440 --> 00:24:31.640 it's not just 00:24:31.960 --> 00:24:32.280 about 00:24:33.000 --> 00:24:33.320 the 00:24:34.840 --> 00:24:36.360 it's not just about that. 00:24:36.360 --> 00:24:37.560 It is also about 00:24:37.880 --> 00:24:38.840 state. 00:24:40.299 --> 00:24:42.700 So I'm gonna send you some pictures now. 00:24:44.860 --> 00:24:45.260 I will 00:24:45.419 --> 00:24:49.100 do my best to make these pictures available as podcast 00:24:49.340 --> 00:24:51.740 art, chapter art. 00:24:52.240 --> 00:24:54.000 For the dear listener. 00:24:54.000 --> 00:24:55.200 Okay, here we go. 00:24:55.200 --> 00:24:56.320 Dang. 00:24:56.799 --> 00:24:57.840 Okay, that's a 00:24:58.000 --> 00:24:59.840 whoo, that's a lot of uh 00:25:02.140 --> 00:25:02.780 So that 00:25:03.100 --> 00:25:03.500 the first 00:25:03.740 --> 00:25:05.980 the first picture I sent you is a good example of this, okay? 00:25:06.060 --> 00:25:06.540 Ignore the 00:25:06.700 --> 00:25:09.180 ignore the monitors for a second that show things, okay. 00:25:10.080 --> 00:25:10.400 That 00:25:10.559 --> 00:25:10.960 that I 00:25:11.200 --> 00:25:15.760 that instrument panel that has that dot matrix display that shows that data, 00:25:16.160 --> 00:25:18.799 that is simultaneously what is shown in the sim. 00:25:19.280 --> 00:25:20.080 Okay. 00:25:20.400 --> 00:25:20.720 So 00:25:21.520 --> 00:25:26.080 in the game when you're flying the F-16, that panel is kind of crucial because 00:25:26.240 --> 00:25:29.520 you input commands to the jet with that. 00:25:30.060 --> 00:25:30.940 Okay. 00:25:30.940 --> 00:25:31.260 So 00:25:31.660 --> 00:25:32.300 not only 00:25:32.540 --> 00:25:40.540 do all of those buttons do something when I press them in the game, it changes the display of it in the game and it also 00:25:41.400 --> 00:25:44.920 feeds back to this and updates the display on the device. 00:25:44.920 --> 00:25:48.200 And that's all accomplished via software and scripting. 00:25:48.200 --> 00:25:48.600 So there 00:25:48.840 --> 00:25:49.000 so 00:25:49.160 --> 00:25:52.200 on the actual simulator side, there is an extensible 00:25:52.980 --> 00:25:53.220 mod 00:25:53.780 --> 00:25:54.020 like 00:25:54.260 --> 00:25:55.860 language for lack of a better term. 00:25:55.860 --> 00:25:57.060 I think it's mostly Lua 00:25:58.420 --> 00:26:00.260 that this hooks into. 00:26:00.260 --> 00:26:00.420 So 00:26:00.580 --> 00:26:01.940 when you install the 00:26:02.180 --> 00:26:03.140 software 00:26:03.360 --> 00:26:09.279 And you hook up one of these devices, it's basically writing scripts to the game folder 00:26:09.519 --> 00:26:12.080 that are then picked up by the software so it knows 00:26:12.799 --> 00:26:14.880 to communicate with the equipment you have. 00:26:14.880 --> 00:26:15.600 Exactly. 00:26:15.740 --> 00:26:17.900 And the monitors are another one 00:26:18.140 --> 00:26:18.460 because 00:26:19.340 --> 00:26:19.820 if I 00:26:19.980 --> 00:26:20.220 like 00:26:20.380 --> 00:26:26.780 if I'm playing the game on my computer, it knows like this is the monitor to play on, this is the total uh 00:26:27.100 --> 00:26:27.340 X 00:26:27.660 --> 00:26:28.220 and Y 00:26:28.540 --> 00:26:30.460 dimensions. 00:26:30.000 --> 00:26:35.600 But when all these monitors are plugged in, you need to basically arrange them in Windows so that you know monitor one 00:26:35.760 --> 00:26:39.760 is your main display and then monitors two, three, and four are these little mini displays. 00:26:40.480 --> 00:26:47.760 And again, through scripting, you're basically telling the simulation, hey, there's another monitor over here. 00:26:47.760 --> 00:26:50.480 Here's where it is physically in the XY 00:26:50.640 --> 00:26:52.320 plane of my desktop. 00:26:52.320 --> 00:26:54.880 Draw this screen on that. 00:26:55.400 --> 00:26:55.720 So 00:26:55.880 --> 00:26:59.720 all of that is being handled by this software. 00:26:59.720 --> 00:27:01.480 Alright. 00:27:01.480 --> 00:27:04.840 And the same thing goes for the second picture I sent you. 00:27:04.840 --> 00:27:08.520 The first picture was the F-16, the second picture is the F-A-18. 00:27:08.360 --> 00:27:13.159 And on the FA18, you'll notice there's a different panel on the front. 00:27:13.159 --> 00:27:18.360 Depending on what mode you're in, that little dot matrix display on the right shows different 00:27:19.120 --> 00:27:23.840 I mean, they're not words, they're abbreviations, acronyms, things like that. 00:27:23.840 --> 00:27:25.120 And, you know, you could 00:27:25.280 --> 00:27:30.800 you could press buttons and it shows up on the little digital display and and all that other stuff. 00:27:31.080 --> 00:27:31.320 So 00:27:31.559 --> 00:27:41.400 that so the software not only handles all of that, but it also saves you a lot of time because it will basically pre-configure all of these buttons 00:27:41.640 --> 00:27:43.799 for the aircraft you're flying. 00:27:44.000 --> 00:27:44.320 So it 00:27:44.480 --> 00:27:48.720 again, if you're looking at that picture, you'll see around every monitor 00:27:49.039 --> 00:27:49.679 there are 00:27:50.320 --> 00:27:54.799 basically 16 buttons around every display. 00:27:55.380 --> 00:27:57.380 All of those are are different buttons. 00:27:57.380 --> 00:27:58.980 All of them get programmed differently 00:27:59.220 --> 00:28:00.340 for each monitor. 00:28:00.340 --> 00:28:03.060 That would take me hours to map that by hand, right? 00:28:03.060 --> 00:28:03.300 Yeah. 00:28:08.260 --> 00:28:08.580 Yeah. 00:28:08.580 --> 00:28:09.059 Okay. 00:28:09.460 --> 00:28:10.980 And the knobs 00:28:11.299 --> 00:28:11.940 are all 00:28:12.260 --> 00:28:12.340 s 00:28:12.820 --> 00:28:14.179 essentially sliders 00:28:14.340 --> 00:28:15.460 that do different things. 00:28:15.460 --> 00:28:15.780 So the 00:28:15.940 --> 00:28:16.100 access 00:28:16.419 --> 00:28:17.059 the accesses 00:28:17.220 --> 00:28:18.340 are all configures. 00:28:19.059 --> 00:28:19.220 Oh 00:28:19.380 --> 00:28:19.940 Paul. 00:28:19.940 --> 00:28:20.660 Paul, there's some 00:28:21.299 --> 00:28:21.860 there's some pretty 00:28:22.340 --> 00:28:23.460 there's some pretty clicky 00:28:23.860 --> 00:28:29.460 some of the knobs are clicky, some of the knobs are twist, and some of the knobs are twisty cli 00:28:31.580 --> 00:28:34.700 And some of the knobs you can press. 00:28:34.700 --> 00:28:35.580 And the switches. 00:28:36.539 --> 00:28:38.700 The switch the switches are all mechanical. 00:28:38.700 --> 00:28:40.860 The switches are all mechanical. 00:28:41.919 --> 00:28:42.639 Some of them 00:28:42.880 --> 00:28:45.039 some of them have gates. 00:28:45.039 --> 00:28:47.200 Some of them it's like you can't just flip it up and down. 00:28:47.200 --> 00:28:49.679 You gotta yank, lift, and then set. 00:28:49.519 --> 00:28:50.159 Oh, because 00:28:50.320 --> 00:28:50.559 it's 00:28:50.960 --> 00:28:51.279 okay. 00:28:51.600 --> 00:28:55.840 Yeah, because you don't want to accidentally flip one, you know, drop a bomb on somebody, right? 00:28:55.840 --> 00:28:56.799 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:28:56.880 --> 00:28:58.399 Yeah, it turns out. 00:28:58.220 --> 00:28:59.020 Frowned upon. 00:28:59.020 --> 00:28:59.420 Generally found 00:28:59.580 --> 00:29:00.060 upon. 00:29:00.060 --> 00:29:01.100 Generally frowned upon. 00:29:01.100 --> 00:29:02.780 It's never a war crime the first time. 00:29:02.780 --> 00:29:03.100 Um 00:29:04.620 --> 00:29:05.260 Yeah. 00:29:05.260 --> 00:29:06.380 Yeah, it's good. 00:29:06.380 --> 00:29:07.020 And what's 00:29:07.180 --> 00:29:09.980 and again, because I bought the more expensive one 00:29:10.500 --> 00:29:21.700 Really, the only difference between the two pictures is in the first picture, that panel that has the gray buttons, when I want to fly the other jet, and actually I could probably do this on camera. 00:29:21.700 --> 00:29:23.780 You could probably should be able to see this. 00:29:24.440 --> 00:29:28.360 This is on a hinge, so all I do is just flip this up. 00:29:29.640 --> 00:29:31.400 Look at that, it flippies up. 00:29:31.480 --> 00:29:33.320 Then you're on then you're doing the other one. 00:29:33.320 --> 00:29:35.560 Then I'm doing the other one and then this goes back down 00:29:35.860 --> 00:29:36.740 It's nice. 00:29:36.740 --> 00:29:37.460 It's nice. 00:29:37.460 --> 00:29:40.260 Yeah, and and and again, credit where credit's due. 00:29:40.260 --> 00:29:42.340 All the hardware that came with this, really good. 00:29:42.340 --> 00:29:42.980 Really good. 00:29:42.980 --> 00:29:43.860 Not chintzy. 00:29:43.860 --> 00:29:44.420 Not chintzy 00:29:44.580 --> 00:29:44.900 at all. 00:29:44.900 --> 00:29:45.380 Like there's 00:29:45.620 --> 00:29:48.980 none of this feels cheap, which is what I was kind of worried about. 00:29:49.000 --> 00:29:51.080 None of it feels cheap. 00:29:51.080 --> 00:29:52.360 There's very little 00:29:52.520 --> 00:29:52.840 like 00:29:53.160 --> 00:29:56.840 I mean there's plastic, but there's very little flimsy plastic. 00:29:56.840 --> 00:30:01.320 Now, I did put a screenshot in the show notes of some of the hilarious translations. 00:30:01.400 --> 00:30:02.920 I saw that. 00:30:02.920 --> 00:30:03.880 Yes, yes. 00:30:03.880 --> 00:30:04.280 Yeah. 00:30:05.080 --> 00:30:06.760 Do not use excessive force. 00:30:06.760 --> 00:30:07.000 Like 00:30:07.400 --> 00:30:11.880 some of them, some of them they do warn you, like, hey, in the jet, this would be a pull 00:30:12.040 --> 00:30:13.080 and twist. 00:30:12.840 --> 00:30:15.480 You can't do that with this or you're gonna break it. 00:30:16.039 --> 00:30:16.520 Okay. 00:30:16.520 --> 00:30:16.919 Okay. 00:30:16.919 --> 00:30:17.320 Right. 00:30:17.320 --> 00:30:17.720 Yeah. 00:30:17.720 --> 00:30:18.039 Right. 00:30:18.039 --> 00:30:20.360 Same thing for some of the tail hooks and things like that. 00:30:20.360 --> 00:30:21.880 Like, they're like, listen, don't 00:30:22.039 --> 00:30:22.280 like 00:30:22.540 --> 00:30:22.940 Gorilla 00:30:23.100 --> 00:30:23.980 it, you know? 00:30:23.980 --> 00:30:25.260 Show a little class. 00:30:25.260 --> 00:30:25.660 Okay. 00:30:25.660 --> 00:30:26.060 Okay. 00:30:26.060 --> 00:30:26.460 Okay. 00:30:26.460 --> 00:30:27.420 I c I respect that. 00:30:27.420 --> 00:30:28.380 I respect that. 00:30:28.380 --> 00:30:29.020 Yeah. 00:30:29.020 --> 00:30:29.740 So there was a 00:30:29.900 --> 00:30:31.740 there was a little fucking around with controls. 00:30:31.740 --> 00:30:34.300 There was a little bit of time doing things like that, but 00:30:34.260 --> 00:30:35.940 Uh all in all, everything looks good. 00:30:35.940 --> 00:30:38.020 Now the only footnote to this is 00:30:39.140 --> 00:30:44.179 after setting everything up, and again, if you go back to the pictures I sent you. 00:30:44.500 --> 00:30:51.940 It it doesn't look too bad in the first picture, but in the second picture, wow, what is going on with my phone? 00:30:51.940 --> 00:30:53.380 In the second picture 00:30:53.919 --> 00:30:56.000 The monitors look kind of dim. 00:30:56.000 --> 00:30:59.440 They do look kind of dim, but yeah, especially that one on the left there. 00:30:59.440 --> 00:31:00.240 Yeah. 00:31:00.240 --> 00:31:01.840 That's not a problem 00:31:02.000 --> 00:31:03.120 with the monitors. 00:31:03.120 --> 00:31:06.160 That is actually a bug with the simulator. 00:31:06.760 --> 00:31:07.000 So 00:31:07.160 --> 00:31:12.200 again, doing a little bit of research, and this is it, this is a utility that's been around for a while. 00:31:12.200 --> 00:31:13.880 It's called Reshade. 00:31:14.040 --> 00:31:14.520 Okay. 00:31:14.520 --> 00:31:16.280 And I put a link in the show notes to it. 00:31:16.280 --> 00:31:17.880 Essentially what it does, it is 00:31:18.040 --> 00:31:20.040 it hooks into your game 00:31:20.360 --> 00:31:24.680 and gives you access to more shaders for you to use in your game. 00:31:24.680 --> 00:31:28.760 So if you want to make your game brighter, more contrast, more color depth. 00:31:29.400 --> 00:31:32.440 You can install this and it hooks into things. 00:31:32.440 --> 00:31:37.080 Long story short, after you have your monitor set up the way you want. 00:31:37.940 --> 00:31:38.900 You install 00:31:39.220 --> 00:31:40.420 this, you it 00:31:40.580 --> 00:31:40.980 and I f 00:31:41.140 --> 00:31:46.340 I've basically followed a guide online that did all this, and it's like set this value to this, set this value to that. 00:31:46.340 --> 00:31:48.340 Then what you do is you take a screenshot. 00:31:48.340 --> 00:31:50.340 And when you take the screenshot 00:31:51.360 --> 00:31:55.840 It's your whole desktop, including the monitors that make up the displays. 00:31:55.840 --> 00:31:59.760 So then what you do is you take that screenshot and you go to paint. 00:32:00.700 --> 00:32:05.980 And and you basically draw a white box over the actual game part 00:32:06.540 --> 00:32:09.660 and that applies a mask to the reshade. 00:32:09.620 --> 00:32:10.180 So it's 00:32:10.340 --> 00:32:10.900 so then 00:32:11.140 --> 00:32:11.620 so then 00:32:12.900 --> 00:32:17.700 it's like remedial Photoshop 101 for my Photoshop nerds out there. 00:32:17.700 --> 00:32:18.180 So now 00:32:18.340 --> 00:32:23.220 when I turn the effect on, it doesn't affect the game, but it does make the monitors brighter. 00:32:23.080 --> 00:32:23.240 Oh 00:32:23.400 --> 00:32:25.080 okay, that's clever solution. 00:32:25.080 --> 00:32:25.320 Okay. 00:32:25.560 --> 00:32:28.760 Yeah, except Windows Smart Controls like this DLL is 00:32:28.920 --> 00:32:29.240 ah 00:32:31.320 --> 00:32:34.840 All right, all right, mom, whatever. 00:32:36.040 --> 00:32:38.040 So, how does it feel to fly? 00:32:38.040 --> 00:32:38.680 It feels great. 00:32:38.680 --> 00:32:39.000 I've been you 00:32:39.160 --> 00:32:39.400 I've been 00:32:39.560 --> 00:32:41.320 I've been using the steam frame. 00:32:42.300 --> 00:32:42.620 And 00:32:42.780 --> 00:32:43.340 I've been 00:32:43.500 --> 00:32:44.780 it's been good. 00:32:44.780 --> 00:32:45.500 It's been good. 00:32:45.500 --> 00:32:45.580 Uh 00:32:45.740 --> 00:32:47.180 the steam frame is very light 00:32:47.340 --> 00:32:49.660 and again if you're looking at my chair 00:32:50.220 --> 00:32:55.260 I have a power cable that sort of comes through one of the holes in the chair. 00:32:55.260 --> 00:32:57.420 That's where the power cord goes to the steam frame. 00:32:57.420 --> 00:32:58.700 So again, cable management. 00:32:58.700 --> 00:33:00.220 That's what I live for. 00:33:01.040 --> 00:33:02.400 And uh it's good. 00:33:02.400 --> 00:33:06.240 I did buy a wireless headset to use that has a microphone on it 00:33:06.400 --> 00:33:07.840 that kind of lives on there too. 00:33:07.840 --> 00:33:09.200 It's it's super cheap. 00:33:09.200 --> 00:33:11.360 I only really use it for that. 00:33:11.360 --> 00:33:12.080 And um 00:33:13.740 --> 00:33:15.500 Yeah, I mean it's been a journey. 00:33:15.500 --> 00:33:16.299 It's taken me 00:33:16.460 --> 00:33:18.620 my wife gave me a lot of shit because she's like, have 00:33:18.780 --> 00:33:20.860 you actually played anything in it yet? 00:33:20.860 --> 00:33:23.580 Or have you just been messing with your cables and 00:33:23.740 --> 00:33:24.780 figuring things out? 00:33:24.780 --> 00:33:26.539 But I have done a few flights 00:33:26.960 --> 00:33:27.280 And 00:33:27.440 --> 00:33:27.760 uh 00:33:28.160 --> 00:33:33.200 yeah, being able to just press buttons without having to reach for a mouse or something 00:33:33.440 --> 00:33:34.080 has been 00:33:34.360 --> 00:33:35.480 Kind of game changing. 00:33:35.480 --> 00:33:36.919 It it it's really been worth it. 00:33:36.919 --> 00:33:37.720 I really enjoy it. 00:33:37.720 --> 00:33:43.639 And people are probably wondering, like, why would you spend the extra money on the monitors if you're playing in VR? 00:33:43.639 --> 00:33:45.159 Here's the thing. 00:33:45.480 --> 00:33:49.480 When you're playing in VR, I would love to tell you that you can't see out 00:33:49.720 --> 00:33:53.320 from around like the frame of the VR headset. 00:33:53.320 --> 00:33:54.120 You can. 00:33:54.120 --> 00:33:54.840 Yeah. 00:33:54.940 --> 00:33:55.179 So 00:33:55.340 --> 00:34:00.059 rather than constantly looking up and down with my headset, I can just kind of take a peek down 00:34:00.299 --> 00:34:03.820 and see the same thing I would do if I actually tilted my head down. 00:34:03.820 --> 00:34:04.299 Okay. 00:34:04.299 --> 00:34:05.019 Okay. 00:34:05.019 --> 00:34:05.899 Makes sense. 00:34:05.899 --> 00:34:06.299 Yeah. 00:34:06.299 --> 00:34:06.860 Yeah. 00:34:06.860 --> 00:34:07.820 Yeah. 00:34:07.919 --> 00:34:08.480 Cool. 00:34:08.480 --> 00:34:08.639 Uh 00:34:08.800 --> 00:34:08.960 so 00:34:09.119 --> 00:34:11.919 I know that I just spent a hell of a lot of time 00:34:12.159 --> 00:34:15.040 geeking out about that stuff, but uh it's working really well. 00:34:15.040 --> 00:34:15.679 It's working really well. 00:34:16.240 --> 00:34:16.560 I'm glad. 00:34:16.560 --> 00:34:18.639 I'm glad it yeah, I'm glad it's working out for you. 00:34:18.639 --> 00:34:19.200 Yeah. 00:34:19.200 --> 00:34:20.000 Excellent. 00:34:20.000 --> 00:34:20.639 Yeah 00:34:20.659 --> 00:34:22.340 All right, I want to shut up for a while. 00:34:22.340 --> 00:34:22.899 That's okay. 00:34:22.899 --> 00:34:23.540 I mean 00:34:23.940 --> 00:34:24.340 I s 00:34:24.580 --> 00:34:24.820 I 00:34:25.379 --> 00:34:27.860 I just wanted to let you know that I did 00:34:28.179 --> 00:34:30.100 roll credits on control 00:34:30.580 --> 00:34:31.220 resident. 00:34:31.320 --> 00:34:31.960 Okay. 00:34:32.200 --> 00:34:33.080 Don't spoil it for me. 00:34:34.200 --> 00:34:35.240 You haven't played it yet. 00:34:35.240 --> 00:34:37.159 I'm not gonna spoil it. 00:34:37.159 --> 00:34:37.800 Uh 00:34:39.000 --> 00:34:39.320 the 00:34:39.639 --> 00:34:40.679 story, the s 00:34:40.840 --> 00:34:40.919 the 00:34:41.159 --> 00:34:41.639 the story, 00:34:41.879 --> 00:34:42.760 the story is 00:34:43.980 --> 00:34:44.300 So 00:34:44.940 --> 00:34:45.260 well 00:34:45.580 --> 00:34:47.420 done. 00:34:47.420 --> 00:34:48.380 There is. 00:34:48.700 --> 00:34:52.300 In fact, I would go out of your way to avoid any kind of spoilers. 00:34:52.300 --> 00:34:53.180 Okay. 00:34:53.500 --> 00:34:53.820 The 00:34:55.000 --> 00:34:55.160 The 00:34:55.400 --> 00:34:57.320 some of the last pieces and it 00:34:57.480 --> 00:34:59.480 what it does at the end 00:35:00.280 --> 00:35:00.680 is j 00:35:01.080 --> 00:35:01.480 I it 00:35:03.099 --> 00:35:04.220 It's absolutely just 00:35:04.619 --> 00:35:04.780 it's 00:35:04.940 --> 00:35:05.020 it 00:35:05.260 --> 00:35:08.780 it'll do something you would you definitely did not expect to happen. 00:35:09.500 --> 00:35:09.579 But 00:35:10.060 --> 00:35:12.780 looking back on it, I'm like, oh yeah, I can see how they're 00:35:13.140 --> 00:35:14.020 They're setting this up. 00:35:14.020 --> 00:35:14.339 It did 00:35:14.819 --> 00:35:15.380 by the way. 00:35:15.779 --> 00:35:16.260 Sorry. 00:35:16.260 --> 00:35:16.740 Vito 00:35:16.900 --> 00:35:19.059 loves to steal the cable ties. 00:35:19.059 --> 00:35:20.420 So I have to keep an eye on him. 00:35:20.420 --> 00:35:20.660 Sorry. 00:35:20.660 --> 00:35:20.819 Okay. 00:35:20.819 --> 00:35:22.260 So anyway, it does things you don't expect. 00:35:22.260 --> 00:35:22.579 Sorry. 00:35:22.579 --> 00:35:22.819 Yeah. 00:35:22.819 --> 00:35:23.299 Yeah. 00:35:23.320 --> 00:35:23.640 Uh 00:35:23.880 --> 00:35:27.480 if you love the lore of control, if you love reading all the little 00:35:27.640 --> 00:35:29.560 the little things and getting like 00:35:29.800 --> 00:35:33.720 environmental storytelling, it's done extremely well. 00:35:33.720 --> 00:35:36.440 If you liked control, you will love the story of control 00:35:36.760 --> 00:35:37.960 resonant. 00:35:38.880 --> 00:35:39.200 I 00:35:39.520 --> 00:35:42.160 I am I I know I know who I am, Drew. 00:35:42.160 --> 00:35:43.120 I am not 00:35:43.440 --> 00:35:44.080 the best 00:35:44.720 --> 00:35:45.040 video 00:35:45.280 --> 00:35:45.840 game player 00:35:46.040 --> 00:35:47.240 player in the world. 00:35:47.240 --> 00:35:51.160 I generally avoid games like, you know, the typically the the you know 00:35:51.400 --> 00:35:53.160 Elden Ring and games like that. 00:35:53.160 --> 00:35:55.400 I I know I I know my skill level. 00:35:55.400 --> 00:35:57.400 I know what I enjoy. 00:35:57.520 --> 00:35:59.520 The game gets too hard at the end. 00:35:59.520 --> 00:35:59.760 Flat 00:35:59.920 --> 00:36:00.240 out. 00:36:00.560 --> 00:36:01.520 At least for me. 00:36:01.520 --> 00:36:02.240 It's it is 00:36:02.400 --> 00:36:03.040 it was 00:36:03.200 --> 00:36:04.640 too difficult. 00:36:04.640 --> 00:36:06.079 After a while, I really had 00:36:06.240 --> 00:36:07.920 like I I made a decision at some point. 00:36:07.920 --> 00:36:10.240 I'm like, I just want to see the story. 00:36:09.900 --> 00:36:15.180 I just cranked all of the accessibility stuff up to just take it easy on me 00:36:15.500 --> 00:36:15.819 and 00:36:15.980 --> 00:36:16.299 uh 00:36:16.619 --> 00:36:17.980 got through it 00:36:17.940 --> 00:36:21.140 And this is even after like each patch they've done 00:36:21.300 --> 00:36:23.859 has some kind of like, yeah, we made this part easier. 00:36:23.859 --> 00:36:24.820 We made this part easier. 00:36:26.099 --> 00:36:28.980 I think it's still, at least for me. 00:36:29.160 --> 00:36:30.280 It is too hard. 00:36:30.280 --> 00:36:31.400 I get it remedy. 00:36:31.400 --> 00:36:33.400 You don't want to add a difficulty setting. 00:36:33.400 --> 00:36:34.360 I think you need to do it. 00:36:34.360 --> 00:36:35.720 I think you just need to do it like 00:36:35.960 --> 00:36:36.280 just 00:36:36.520 --> 00:36:37.480 get some preset 00:36:37.640 --> 00:36:37.720 or 00:36:37.880 --> 00:36:38.280 I don't know. 00:36:38.280 --> 00:36:40.440 I mean you do have a lot of accessibility controls. 00:36:40.440 --> 00:36:43.960 You can increase your damage, decrease the amount of damage you take. 00:36:43.620 --> 00:36:45.700 Uh, you know, you can make some of the the puzzly 00:36:45.940 --> 00:36:48.740 aspects a little bit easier if you need to do that as well. 00:36:48.740 --> 00:36:48.900 Uh 00:36:49.060 --> 00:36:49.140 it 00:36:49.460 --> 00:36:50.020 it just got 00:36:50.340 --> 00:36:50.900 it got 00:36:51.720 --> 00:36:52.200 It got 00:36:52.359 --> 00:36:54.359 it got too hard for me 00:36:54.680 --> 00:37:01.480 and but at least the game gave me the tools that I could adjust things and and get through it and and enjoy the story. 00:37:01.480 --> 00:37:01.720 Uh 00:37:01.960 --> 00:37:03.240 I'm thinking I may 00:37:03.720 --> 00:37:05.559 you can do like a new game plus 00:37:06.020 --> 00:37:06.660 uh after that. 00:37:06.660 --> 00:37:07.140 I'm not sure. 00:37:07.380 --> 00:37:10.500 I may just start over from the beginning and and try to play it 00:37:10.740 --> 00:37:11.940 and try to get good. 00:37:11.940 --> 00:37:15.700 Now that I've seen the story, I can maybe bang my head against some things and and 00:37:15.859 --> 00:37:16.099 and 00:37:16.720 --> 00:37:21.359 and do it and pick up some of the little side quest things that I know that I missed. 00:37:21.359 --> 00:37:22.000 Uh 00:37:22.400 --> 00:37:24.079 but it's it's real good 00:37:24.240 --> 00:37:25.200 so far. 00:37:25.200 --> 00:37:29.599 Even with the difficulty spike at the end, I think it's still so far 00:37:29.760 --> 00:37:30.799 my game of the year. 00:37:30.799 --> 00:37:31.119 So 00:37:31.420 --> 00:37:32.220 Okay. 00:37:32.220 --> 00:37:32.860 Okay. 00:37:32.860 --> 00:37:34.860 Yeah, it's on my list to play. 00:37:35.340 --> 00:37:36.700 As you can see, I've been busy. 00:37:36.700 --> 00:37:37.020 Yeah, you 00:37:37.180 --> 00:37:38.380 yeah, you have the priorities. 00:37:38.380 --> 00:37:38.780 Yep. 00:37:38.780 --> 00:37:39.580 Yeah. 00:37:39.440 --> 00:37:39.520 So 00:37:39.760 --> 00:37:41.280 it is it is on my list to play. 00:37:41.280 --> 00:37:42.240 I I will I am 00:37:42.480 --> 00:37:43.599 it's absolutely on my list. 00:37:43.599 --> 00:37:43.920 There's a 00:37:44.079 --> 00:37:45.920 I need to get through a couple other things and then 00:37:46.720 --> 00:37:47.680 as the year starts 00:37:47.960 --> 00:37:52.680 to slow down and we get closer to the holidays and I have more time, I will I will probably tackle tack 00:37:53.000 --> 00:37:54.680 tackle more of that type of stuff. 00:37:54.680 --> 00:37:58.200 And when you finish it, we'll do a spoilerly cast and we'll talk about it. 00:37:58.640 --> 00:37:59.119 Yeah. 00:37:59.119 --> 00:37:59.760 Mm-hmm. 00:37:59.760 --> 00:38:00.400 Yeah. 00:38:00.400 --> 00:38:00.640 I 00:38:00.799 --> 00:38:00.880 I 00:38:01.039 --> 00:38:02.240 you know, it's funny. 00:38:02.240 --> 00:38:04.400 I'm so ambitious with my game library. 00:38:04.400 --> 00:38:05.760 I actually downloaded control 00:38:06.160 --> 00:38:07.359 intending to play it. 00:38:07.280 --> 00:38:07.359 Oh 00:38:07.920 --> 00:38:07.920 , 00:38:08.079 --> 00:38:08.720 I forget it. 00:38:09.119 --> 00:38:12.079 And it's just sitting, it's it's on my monitor right now, just in my steam 00:38:12.240 --> 00:38:12.560 list, just 00:38:12.720 --> 00:38:13.440 marking me. 00:38:13.440 --> 00:38:15.200 Like, I'm on your hard drive. 00:38:15.200 --> 00:38:15.440 Like 00:38:16.800 --> 00:38:18.160 Yeah, it's 00:38:18.800 --> 00:38:20.079 yeah, it's 00:38:20.760 --> 00:38:21.079 The 00:38:23.079 --> 00:38:24.680 Yeah, it's it's the 00:38:25.960 --> 00:38:26.280 I 00:38:26.680 --> 00:38:28.440 it does have some issues. 00:38:28.440 --> 00:38:29.400 Like I think 00:38:32.859 --> 00:38:38.859 Depending on how you play the game and what order you do things, you can make things unnecessarily hard for yourself. 00:38:39.120 --> 00:38:40.240 You just can. 00:38:40.240 --> 00:38:41.120 Like, there's some 00:38:41.280 --> 00:38:45.120 there's some movement abilities you really kind of need to focus on first 00:38:46.000 --> 00:38:47.760 to get things going. 00:38:47.760 --> 00:38:51.680 And and those can be kind of hard to find a little bit. 00:38:51.680 --> 00:38:52.000 And 00:38:52.240 --> 00:38:52.560 like 00:38:53.220 --> 00:38:55.220 Certain enemies you need to have certain abilities. 00:38:55.220 --> 00:38:59.140 And and there it does kind of telegraph pretty well, like, hey, you know, like 00:38:59.299 --> 00:39:00.260 these things are 00:39:00.500 --> 00:39:01.859 resilient to fire. 00:39:02.059 --> 00:39:06.539 And oh hey, people keep talking about this giant fire creature that you should go kill. 00:39:06.539 --> 00:39:08.380 Maybe those are related. 00:39:09.660 --> 00:39:09.980 But 00:39:11.099 --> 00:39:11.260 got 00:39:11.420 --> 00:39:11.740 it. 00:39:11.740 --> 00:39:12.140 Yeah. 00:39:12.140 --> 00:39:12.619 Got it. 00:39:12.619 --> 00:39:12.940 It's good. 00:39:12.940 --> 00:39:13.420 It's good. 00:39:13.420 --> 00:39:13.900 It's 00:39:14.380 --> 00:39:14.700 The 00:39:15.180 --> 00:39:17.099 yeah, but it just it mm-hmm 00:39:17.260 --> 00:39:19.500 the difficulty spike at the end was just too much for me. 00:39:19.500 --> 00:39:20.779 But still, still I enjoyed it. 00:39:20.779 --> 00:39:22.539 I enjoyed the story, the 00:39:22.700 --> 00:39:25.339 the gameplay, it's all it's all good. 00:39:25.339 --> 00:39:25.660 The 00:39:26.059 --> 00:39:26.380 the 00:39:27.400 --> 00:39:27.960 Dylan 00:39:28.200 --> 00:39:29.240 and the board 00:39:29.480 --> 00:39:33.560 is one of my favorite, just absolute favorite things. 00:39:33.640 --> 00:39:33.960 And 00:39:34.120 --> 00:39:34.280 like 00:39:34.600 --> 00:39:34.840 just 00:39:35.000 --> 00:39:35.160 just 00:39:35.560 --> 00:39:35.880 like 00:39:36.680 --> 00:39:38.520 Audio-wise, okay, so 00:39:38.839 --> 00:39:39.480 the fast 00:39:39.640 --> 00:39:49.079 travel system in this game is you find these weird doors, and they're just like door frames out there, and as you unlock them, you can use the doors to travel around. 00:39:49.120 --> 00:39:53.200 Uh, the first time you do it, the board goes like, we 00:39:53.440 --> 00:39:55.040 do it again. 00:39:57.680 --> 00:39:58.000 And 00:39:58.160 --> 00:39:58.480 uh 00:39:59.660 --> 00:39:59.900 Uh 00:40:00.060 --> 00:40:02.380 there's this mechanic where it's like basically if you 00:40:02.620 --> 00:40:03.180 like it's 00:40:03.340 --> 00:40:07.100 every enemy's got two health bars, a regular health bar and like a stagger bar. 00:40:07.100 --> 00:40:10.700 And if you stagger them, then you can do like a execution kill 00:40:11.260 --> 00:40:11.579 And 00:40:11.820 --> 00:40:12.140 uh 00:40:12.780 --> 00:40:17.820 every time after you do that, the board basically makes a noise like, hell 00:40:17.980 --> 00:40:18.940 yeah. 00:40:20.660 --> 00:40:22.980 But in their but in their weird language and noise. 00:40:23.220 --> 00:40:23.460 Okay. 00:40:24.260 --> 00:40:26.980 Every time they're like, mmm, get it. 00:40:28.020 --> 00:40:30.340 Does it actually subtitle it? 00:40:29.780 --> 00:40:30.579 Uh no, it doesn't. 00:40:33.300 --> 00:40:34.099 Yeah, like 00:40:34.660 --> 00:40:35.060 it's like 00:40:35.220 --> 00:40:35.380 we 00:40:35.619 --> 00:40:36.020 again. 00:40:36.020 --> 00:40:36.660 Yeah, you just 00:40:36.820 --> 00:40:37.060 but you 00:40:37.220 --> 00:40:37.780 but you can tell 00:40:37.940 --> 00:40:38.420 just it's the 00:40:38.579 --> 00:40:41.859 it's the board and they're like, mmm, get after it. 00:40:41.940 --> 00:40:42.420 Yeah. 00:40:42.420 --> 00:40:43.060 Okay. 00:40:43.060 --> 00:40:43.859 Very fun. 00:40:43.859 --> 00:40:44.579 Very fun. 00:40:44.579 --> 00:40:44.900 Alright. 00:40:44.900 --> 00:40:44.980 I 00:40:45.220 --> 00:40:46.820 you're making me want to play it even more. 00:40:46.820 --> 00:40:46.980 There 00:40:47.140 --> 00:40:48.099 the board is 00:40:48.260 --> 00:40:51.619 plays a bigger role in this game than it does in control, I think. 00:40:51.619 --> 00:40:52.180 Yeah. 00:40:52.180 --> 00:40:53.380 Okay. 00:40:54.240 --> 00:40:54.480 All right, 00:40:54.640 --> 00:40:55.359 it's yeah, it's weird. 00:40:55.359 --> 00:40:56.320 Anywho, anywho, let's talk about it. 00:40:56.480 --> 00:40:57.680 Yeah, no, I'm I'm glad. 00:40:57.680 --> 00:40:57.839 So 00:40:58.079 --> 00:41:01.040 last topic for the night, because you and I are both exasperated. 00:41:01.040 --> 00:41:01.200 So 00:41:01.440 --> 00:41:03.440 have you been following all this PS5 00:41:03.599 --> 00:41:04.480 hacking? 00:41:04.480 --> 00:41:05.680 I have. 00:41:05.680 --> 00:41:06.320 I'm 00:41:06.880 --> 00:41:07.200 Uh 00:41:07.440 --> 00:41:08.559 yeah, so 00:41:08.720 --> 00:41:08.880 uh 00:41:09.119 --> 00:41:10.960 you have two links in here 00:41:11.119 --> 00:41:11.680 and they're really 00:41:12.240 --> 00:41:13.039 set the stage too. 00:41:13.200 --> 00:41:13.520 Yeah. 00:41:13.760 --> 00:41:15.599 Talk about why this is happening. 00:41:15.940 --> 00:41:16.420 Well, I 00:41:16.579 --> 00:41:16.660 may 00:41:16.980 --> 00:41:19.859 I think people are just generally mad at PlayStation 00:41:20.099 --> 00:41:20.740 Sony 00:41:21.140 --> 00:41:21.460 because 00:41:21.780 --> 00:41:23.380 they decided that 00:41:23.619 --> 00:41:27.380 they had a strategy where they were gonna bring like their single player 00:41:27.540 --> 00:41:29.140 story-driven games 00:41:29.520 --> 00:41:32.720 to PC a few years after the PlayStation release. 00:41:32.720 --> 00:41:33.920 And then they're like, 00:41:34.480 --> 00:41:35.280 you know what? 00:41:35.280 --> 00:41:36.079 We're not gonna do it. 00:41:36.079 --> 00:41:36.320 Yeah. 00:41:36.640 --> 00:41:39.119 That's true, but I don't think that's the main reason. 00:41:39.119 --> 00:41:40.400 What's the main reason? 00:41:40.400 --> 00:41:42.800 People were very mad about physical discs 00:41:42.960 --> 00:41:43.200 Oh 00:41:43.359 --> 00:41:44.640 yes, that too. 00:41:44.640 --> 00:41:45.440 That too. 00:41:45.440 --> 00:41:45.599 So 00:41:46.079 --> 00:41:46.880 Tony. 00:41:47.440 --> 00:41:48.480 And like right now, like 00:41:48.640 --> 00:41:49.440 you can't like 00:41:49.599 --> 00:41:50.160 PlayStation 00:41:50.319 --> 00:41:52.240 Pros, you just can't fucking find them. 00:41:52.240 --> 00:41:53.200 Right. 00:41:53.120 --> 00:41:54.320 Uh yeah. 00:41:54.320 --> 00:41:54.640 So 00:41:55.200 --> 00:41:56.480 part of this is 00:41:56.720 --> 00:41:59.360 Sony's like, we don't want to make physical disks anymore. 00:41:59.360 --> 00:42:02.560 Everything's gonna be a download, everything's gonna be a license, and 00:42:03.040 --> 00:42:04.160 As we've seen, like 00:42:04.320 --> 00:42:07.840 one day you just might not be able to play a game that you paid for. 00:42:09.760 --> 00:42:10.080 So 00:42:10.940 --> 00:42:13.180 People are like, okay, well fine, Sony. 00:42:13.180 --> 00:42:13.500 If per 00:42:13.820 --> 00:42:13.900 if 00:42:14.140 --> 00:42:17.099 buying isn't owning, then piracy isn't theft. 00:42:17.099 --> 00:42:17.980 That's the common 00:42:18.300 --> 00:42:19.820 rallying cry. 00:42:19.820 --> 00:42:23.180 So thanks to what I assume is mostly AI 00:42:24.820 --> 00:42:24.900 You 00:42:25.220 --> 00:42:27.540 have some teams out there right now 00:42:27.860 --> 00:42:28.500 that are 00:42:28.660 --> 00:42:31.140 basically decompiling and reverse 00:42:31.300 --> 00:42:31.940 engineering 00:42:32.500 --> 00:42:33.700 not just the Sony 00:42:33.940 --> 00:42:34.900 OS. 00:42:35.220 --> 00:42:36.099 But the Sony 00:42:36.339 --> 00:42:37.220 hardware. 00:42:37.779 --> 00:42:40.020 They have basically taken 00:42:40.180 --> 00:42:40.980 the Sony 00:42:41.140 --> 00:42:42.260 GPUs 00:42:43.380 --> 00:42:46.660 And made it so that they could fully emulate them. 00:42:47.940 --> 00:42:50.180 And now they're working on the rest of the components. 00:42:50.180 --> 00:42:52.500 I think last time I checked, the project's like 00:42:52.660 --> 00:42:53.299 90% 00:42:53.539 --> 00:42:53.859 complete 00:42:54.020 --> 00:42:54.980 or something. 00:42:54.820 --> 00:42:56.260 Yeah, and they have some 00:42:56.500 --> 00:42:56.740 uh 00:42:56.900 --> 00:42:58.020 I've been following this because 00:42:58.180 --> 00:42:58.500 basically 00:42:58.660 --> 00:42:58.740 like 00:42:58.980 --> 00:43:01.620 looks like you have to acquire the ISO 00:43:01.780 --> 00:43:04.020 in some way, shape, or form, whether that's legally 00:43:04.260 --> 00:43:06.500 or doing it in a disc or finding it on the internet. 00:43:06.559 --> 00:43:13.359 And then it looks like you run it through this tool, which kind of ports it, and they have like a Windows version and a Linux version. 00:43:13.359 --> 00:43:17.039 So it kind of takes all of the assets and the executables and makes a 00:43:17.520 --> 00:43:17.599 uh 00:43:17.839 --> 00:43:20.640 a native executable that you can run. 00:43:20.640 --> 00:43:21.119 Yep. 00:43:21.119 --> 00:43:24.960 I know really they're kind of following the same inspiration 00:43:25.420 --> 00:43:25.500 of 00:43:25.660 --> 00:43:26.620 things like Proton 00:43:26.860 --> 00:43:30.300 where they're not trying to do emulation, they're basically just trying to do translation. 00:43:30.300 --> 00:43:30.700 Right. 00:43:30.940 --> 00:43:33.020 Computers are fast enough now that 00:43:33.340 --> 00:43:35.660 that's really not that much overhead. 00:43:35.660 --> 00:43:36.300 And while I 00:43:36.460 --> 00:43:40.780 they don't have like any of the triple A titles playable yet, some of the indie 00:43:40.940 --> 00:43:46.620 stuff, while it's not perfectly like they're not always hitting like frame for frame, but like 00:43:46.780 --> 00:43:48.700 things are becoming playable 00:43:48.760 --> 00:43:49.240 Yeah. 00:43:49.240 --> 00:43:52.120 Like some of the some of the lighter weight games. 00:43:52.120 --> 00:43:54.040 And that's just freaking 00:43:54.280 --> 00:43:55.080 amazing. 00:43:55.080 --> 00:43:55.720 Uh-huh. 00:43:55.720 --> 00:43:56.200 Uh-huh. 00:43:56.280 --> 00:43:56.680 Yeah. 00:43:57.400 --> 00:43:57.720 And 00:43:58.040 --> 00:43:58.360 and 00:43:58.520 --> 00:44:01.320 they're also jailbreaking PS5s. 00:44:01.040 --> 00:44:04.400 Yes, that's another yeah, another group of teams or 00:44:04.560 --> 00:44:05.040 yeah. 00:44:05.040 --> 00:44:06.240 I think you can 00:44:06.480 --> 00:44:07.840 uh all the way through the mo 00:44:08.080 --> 00:44:12.960 like it's not the most recent update, but all through all the way through the January update. 00:44:13.380 --> 00:44:14.020 you can 00:44:14.420 --> 00:44:14.819 you know 00:44:15.059 --> 00:44:15.940 put in a uh 00:44:16.099 --> 00:44:18.339 I think it's still like a disk based hack where like a re 00:44:18.579 --> 00:44:19.140 or you I get 00:44:19.299 --> 00:44:19.539 yeah 00:44:19.700 --> 00:44:21.859 but you can you can hack your PS5 00:44:22.020 --> 00:44:23.299 and install emulators 00:44:23.460 --> 00:44:23.700 and 00:44:24.120 --> 00:44:25.480 bypass like you know 00:44:25.720 --> 00:44:27.880 copyright protection but I think I think most of people 00:44:28.040 --> 00:44:28.120 like 00:44:28.280 --> 00:44:30.200 look we can run emulators on the PS5 00:44:31.480 --> 00:44:32.120 and yeah 00:44:32.280 --> 00:44:35.240 it's they're they're really coming along with that stuff. 00:44:35.240 --> 00:44:36.200 It's and 00:44:36.740 --> 00:44:38.980 I don't think I remember 00:44:39.140 --> 00:44:39.460 I know 00:44:39.620 --> 00:44:40.820 this cycle's weird 00:44:41.060 --> 00:44:41.700 because like 00:44:41.940 --> 00:44:42.980 everything's 00:44:43.140 --> 00:44:43.540 I think 00:44:43.700 --> 00:44:45.460 just gonna stick around a little bit longer 00:44:45.700 --> 00:44:46.020 because 00:44:46.860 --> 00:44:50.620 Everything is awful, but this feels really early in the PlayStation 00:44:50.780 --> 00:44:54.300 5 life cycle to start having these kinds of things out there. 00:44:54.799 --> 00:44:56.400 And that's really exciting. 00:44:56.400 --> 00:44:56.880 Yeah. 00:44:56.880 --> 00:44:57.359 Yeah. 00:44:57.359 --> 00:44:57.760 Yeah. 00:44:57.760 --> 00:44:57.920 I 00:44:58.079 --> 00:44:58.160 it 00:44:58.319 --> 00:45:04.240 it's definitely interesting just because, you know, I mean, thanks to you, I do have access to a PS5. 00:45:04.240 --> 00:45:05.119 You do. 00:45:05.119 --> 00:45:05.839 But uh 00:45:06.540 --> 00:45:07.980 I'm a big fan of emulation. 00:45:07.980 --> 00:45:09.980 I mean I I play a lot of games emulated 00:45:10.140 --> 00:45:10.460 and 00:45:11.180 --> 00:45:13.180 you know I I really enjoy PS2 00:45:13.340 --> 00:45:14.300 games and GameCube 00:45:14.460 --> 00:45:17.580 games and I felt like it took us so long to get to a place where 00:45:18.020 --> 00:45:20.900 hardware was able to reliably do that 00:45:21.540 --> 00:45:25.060 just because of the sheer computational translation or 00:45:25.460 --> 00:45:30.980 whatever has to happen to really render the games the way that that original hardware did. 00:45:30.920 --> 00:45:32.760 And now we've just made this 00:45:33.320 --> 00:45:34.280 I I guess thanks 00:45:34.440 --> 00:45:38.520 AI like a generational leap to where we're taking native 00:45:38.760 --> 00:45:40.120 stuff and just 00:45:40.720 --> 00:45:41.200 Yeah. 00:45:41.359 --> 00:45:42.240 Running it. 00:45:42.240 --> 00:45:42.960 Mm-hmm. 00:45:42.960 --> 00:45:45.359 You're not really even really using an emulator, like you said. 00:45:49.620 --> 00:45:53.540 taking the original binaries and rewriting them to run on your m 00:45:53.700 --> 00:45:55.220 machine and that's just 00:45:55.460 --> 00:45:56.100 that's 00:45:56.340 --> 00:45:58.020 that's freaking cool is what it is. 00:45:58.020 --> 00:45:58.340 Now granted 00:45:58.500 --> 00:45:58.660 Sony 00:45:58.820 --> 00:46:02.580 's but there's probably gonna be lawsuits and lawyers involved and shit like that and 00:46:02.660 --> 00:46:04.820 I hope I hope the project doesn't get s like 00:46:04.980 --> 00:46:06.580 lawyered up into oblivion. 00:46:06.580 --> 00:46:06.740 But 00:46:06.980 --> 00:46:10.420 I mean, look, I'm sure that people will continue to 00:46:10.900 --> 00:46:11.700 Well, yeah. 00:46:11.700 --> 00:46:13.060 I just look at like 00:46:13.520 --> 00:46:15.839 I mean Nintendo is the poster child of 00:46:16.320 --> 00:46:20.640 the the current landscape of Switch, the original Switch emulation. 00:46:20.640 --> 00:46:22.480 It's like, okay, yep. 00:46:22.460 --> 00:46:26.060 Like they they get rid of this one, but someone's got the source code and they do a fork 00:46:26.220 --> 00:46:31.420 and they change one letter of the name and then that's the one you grab for a while and then they get sued out of oblivion 00:46:31.660 --> 00:46:33.020 then it just pops up again or 00:46:33.500 --> 00:46:35.500 like you can still find them on the internet 00:46:35.740 --> 00:46:36.620 It really is. 00:46:36.620 --> 00:46:40.380 It really is sort of like a a fool's errand to try to completely shut it down. 00:46:40.380 --> 00:46:40.620 But the 00:46:40.780 --> 00:46:43.580 but the specter of it being there sometimes can be enough to 00:46:44.780 --> 00:46:45.580 make people not do it. 00:46:49.620 --> 00:46:50.340 Yeah. 00:46:50.340 --> 00:46:50.980 Yeah. 00:46:50.980 --> 00:46:51.700 Uh s 00:46:51.940 --> 00:46:52.740 you know, I 00:46:53.060 --> 00:46:53.380 I 00:46:55.220 --> 00:46:55.860 I have 00:46:56.020 --> 00:46:56.180 um 00:46:56.340 --> 00:47:00.500 I have very complicated feelings when it comes to like copyright law and what I 00:47:00.660 --> 00:47:02.820 when I what I feel comfortable. 00:47:02.740 --> 00:47:06.020 emulating and and getting versus what I can't. 00:47:06.420 --> 00:47:07.860 So I'm not sure that this is 00:47:08.020 --> 00:47:09.620 something that I would do 00:47:09.860 --> 00:47:10.660 today. 00:47:10.660 --> 00:47:14.500 Of course I don't have uh anything nearly powerful enough to run that. 00:47:14.500 --> 00:47:14.900 Uh 00:47:15.220 --> 00:47:15.540 but 00:47:16.780 --> 00:47:18.620 I d I still think it's very interesting. 00:47:18.620 --> 00:47:19.740 I'm a big believer in g 00:47:19.900 --> 00:47:21.260 video game preservation. 00:47:21.260 --> 00:47:22.220 I think that's like 00:47:22.700 --> 00:47:23.740 That's my thing. 00:47:23.740 --> 00:47:25.260 That's my thing because there's a 00:47:25.400 --> 00:47:28.839 There's an entire catalog of Xbox 360 games that I would love to play. 00:47:28.839 --> 00:47:33.720 And I think Microsoft knows that and they're sort of like leaning into it and trying to bring that stuff back to modern Xbox. 00:47:34.119 --> 00:47:34.520 They are. 00:47:34.559 --> 00:47:34.960 They are. 00:47:34.960 --> 00:47:35.200 Yeah. 00:47:35.200 --> 00:47:35.440 Yeah. 00:47:35.440 --> 00:47:39.039 Microsoft does a pretty good there's still a lot of original Xbox titles you can play on the 00:47:40.079 --> 00:47:40.799 Series X and stuff. 00:47:41.119 --> 00:47:42.079 Yeah, but they're not they're they're only 00:47:42.319 --> 00:47:43.760 doing that because they're not making anything new. 00:47:43.760 --> 00:47:43.920 So 00:47:44.319 --> 00:47:47.520 well, yeah, Microsoft has their own problems. 00:47:47.059 --> 00:47:47.460 Yeah, but 00:47:47.940 --> 00:47:50.339 Project Helix is gonna save everything. 00:47:50.339 --> 00:47:50.500 Or 00:47:50.900 --> 00:47:51.539 something. 00:47:51.539 --> 00:47:52.180 Yeah. 00:47:52.180 --> 00:47:53.460 Yeah, we'll see. 00:47:53.700 --> 00:47:53.940 So 00:47:54.099 --> 00:47:54.819 but uh yeah 00:47:54.980 --> 00:47:55.220 I 00:47:55.460 --> 00:47:56.420 From a pure 00:47:56.580 --> 00:48:00.900 purely intellectual and video game preservation aspect, I think this is really cool. 00:48:00.900 --> 00:48:01.300 Very cool. 00:48:07.940 --> 00:48:08.820 Yeah. 00:48:08.820 --> 00:48:09.780 Cool. 00:48:09.940 --> 00:48:11.460 That's all I had, buddy. 00:48:11.460 --> 00:48:12.740 I think yeah, you know what? 00:48:12.740 --> 00:48:14.180 We're at like 50 minutes. 00:48:14.180 --> 00:48:15.220 I think I think this is it. 00:48:15.220 --> 00:48:16.020 I think this is it. 00:48:16.020 --> 00:48:17.460 Yeah, I'm exhausted. 00:48:17.460 --> 00:48:18.260 Yeah. 00:48:18.260 --> 00:48:18.420 Uh 00:48:18.580 --> 00:48:18.820 doing 00:48:18.980 --> 00:48:19.060 their 00:48:19.220 --> 00:48:19.620 best. 00:48:19.620 --> 00:48:19.860 com. 00:48:19.860 --> 00:48:20.980 You can find all the show notes. 00:48:20.980 --> 00:48:21.380 I'll try 00:48:21.700 --> 00:48:25.060 all the photos that Drew sent me up on the website as well. 00:48:25.060 --> 00:48:27.380 And hey, thanks for listening.