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<v Paul>Good evening, Drew.

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<v Drew>Hi, Paul.

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<v Drew>How are you feeling?

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<v Paul>I'm

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<v Paul>I'm alright.

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<v Paul>I'm growing okay.

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<v Paul>I'm doing alright.

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<v Paul>Yeah.

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<v Paul>Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Paul>How you been?

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<v Drew>How you been?

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<v Drew>You were a little under the weather, huh?

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<v Paul>I'm

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<v Paul>uh

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<v Paul>I'm getting used to some new medications and I have days that aren't as good as other days.

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<v Drew>I see.

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<v Drew>I see.

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<v Drew>Say no more.

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<v Drew>Uh

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<v Drew>I'm okay.

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<v Drew>It's um

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<v Drew>it's been a busy couple weeks for me.

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<v Drew>Um

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<v Drew>we were originally, I think, supposed to record last week, but I had to go to Chicago for the entire week.

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<v Drew>And then

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<v Drew>I had to go back to Chicago yesterday.

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<v Paul>Oh

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<v Paul>no.

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<v Drew>Yes.

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<v Drew>Yes, I got to

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<v Drew>I got to fly twice in one day to and from Chicago to attend a three-hour meeting.

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<v Paul>That seems worth it.

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<v Drew>I'll let you be the judge of how useful that is.

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<v Drew>But it was

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<v Drew>it's it's it's it's fine.

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<v Drew>It's fine.

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<v Drew>It's very, very short flight.

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<v Paul>Okay.

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<v Paul>Yeah, yeah, that is true.

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<v Paul>That is true.

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<v Drew>It's a very, very short flight.

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<v Paul>Oh.

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<v Drew>I am

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<v Drew>I'm angry.

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<v Paul>You're angry?

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<v Paul>You're angry.

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<v Paul>But

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<v Drew>we'll save it.

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<v Drew>We'll save it for the end of the podcast.

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<v Paul>Okay.

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<v Paul>Okay.

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<v Drew>Um

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<v Drew>I'm very curious about your topics.

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<v Paul>Okay.

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<v Paul>So

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<v Paul>Drew, we've been doing this podcast for a very long time.

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<v Drew>We have.

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<v Paul>And I think that makes you know, we

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<v Paul>we don't have a lot of listeners.

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<v Paul>We have

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<v Paul>we have a loyal base of listeners.

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<v Drew>About seven.

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<v Paul>Yeah, yeah.

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<v Paul>And uh

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<v Paul>I think that makes us one of the more successful podcasts out there.

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<v Paul>You know, not

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<v Paul>I'm not we're not like, you know, top tier, but I have to imagine there's a lot more failed podcasts.

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<v Paul>I mean

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<v Paul>that

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<v Paul>that never get to episode, you know, ten, let alone three hundred in some.

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<v Paul>Uh

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<v Paul>so obviously we have

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<v Paul>associate

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<v Paul>you know, if you go to our podcast page or our website, we have an email address, because you have to have an email address.

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<v Paul>To have a podcast on all the major feeds, and that's contact at doingtheirbest.

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<v Paul>com.

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<v Paul>Feel free to shoot us an email.

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<v Paul>And uh, we've been getting a steady, steady stream of

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<v Paul>people trying to sell services to us.

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<v Paul>for as long as the podcast has existed.

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<v Paul>But now that we're on

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<v Paul>also on most

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<v Paul>most of them were, hey, you need a YouTube

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<v Paul>channel.

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<v Paul>Well we did that.

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<v Paul>We're on you

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<v Paul>we're on the YouTubes now.

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<v Paul>But now that we're on YouTube, things have gotten strange.

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<v Paul>And uh

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<v Drew>Okay

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<v Paul>I have

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<v Paul>I've never really considered reading any of these podcasts on on the air, but I think I'm going to start.

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<v Paul>I'm not gonna oust anybody.

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<v Paul>You can have your side hustle.

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<v Paul>It's fine.

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<v Paul>Keep sending the emails.

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<v Paul>But I have

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<v Paul>I've I've picked three that I would like to share with you today.

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<v Drew>Now

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<v Drew>these are

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<v Drew>these are companies pitching to us.

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<v Paul>Yes.

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<v Paul>Yes.

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<v Paul>Or

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<v Paul>individuals

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<v Paul>or someone trying to sell us a

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<v Paul>a service.

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<v Paul>Okay.

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<v Drew>Okay.

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<v Paul>And I will leave most of that part out.

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<v Paul>I'm just gonna read the the weird part.

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<v Paul>Okay.

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<v Drew>Okay.

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<v Paul>Uh

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<v Paul>this one it read

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<v Paul>this is this I

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<v Paul>entitled this one

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<v Paul>Weird Places.

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<v Paul>Okay

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<v Paul>It reads, Hi, hello, how's it going?

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<v Paul>Hope all is well.

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<v Paul>I have some cool information that might interest you.

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<v Paul>Your podcast, I'm sure they're doing their

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<v Paul>best, has good

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<v Paul>performance and Apple podcast

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<v Paul>rankings in the last 30 days.

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<v Paul>We are position

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<v Paul>100 in the category personal journals in Albania.

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<v Drew>I mean, that's up

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<v Drew>there.

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<v Paul>And

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<v Paul>position 127 in the personal

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<v Paul>In the category personal journals in Turkey.

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<v Paul>And then it proceeds to tell me how I got this information and how I could pay for it, which I am not.

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<v Paul>Okay.

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<v Paul>So

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<v Drew>what but what were they what were they trying to sell us?

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<v Paul>Uh

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<v Paul>it there's

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<v Paul>it's a data aggregator that aggregates data and we could it's yeah, yeah.

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<v Paul>I'm not gonna read the website.

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<v Paul>I don't need to give them thing, but they're basically trying to say, like, hey, I

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<v Paul>if I want to see this kind of information, I can sign up for this thing.

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<v Paul>Okay, there

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<v Drew>it's just statistics.

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<v Paul>Yeah, statistics.

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<v Paul>Yep, yep.

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<v Drew>Okay.

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<v Paul>This one is very similar, trying to sell us like

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<v Paul>a statistics tool.

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<v Paul>This one I I call search terms.

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<v Paul>It's one's pathway.

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<v Drew>Okay,

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<v Drew>I'm ready.

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<v Paul>Hi!

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<v Paul>While checking small screen layout

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<v Paul>on Apple Podcast, we found I'm sure they're doing their best

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<v Paul>in

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<v Paul>position

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<v Paul>number

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<v Paul>one.

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<v Paul>I'm

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<v Paul>blah blah blah.

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<v Paul>Okay, uh

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<v Paul>we record where shows appear in podcast search results.

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<v Paul>B

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<v Paul>below are your show

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<v Paul>'s

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<v Paul>best recorded positions from our keyword

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<v Paul>database over the past 30 days, up to three per platform.

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<v Paul>Okay?

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<v Paul>So

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<v Paul>obviously

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<v Paul>Small screen layout.

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<v Paul>We were ranked number one in the United States.

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<v Drew>Small screen layout.

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<v Drew>What do you think that means?

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<v Paul>I have no idea.

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<v Paul>We have never talked about

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<v Paul>okay.

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<v Paul>Anywho, it gets weird.

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<v Paul>It gets weirder.

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<v Paul>Hold on to your butts.

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<v Paul>We are

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<v Paul>number two

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<v Paul>when you search for color changing playhouse lamps.

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<v Drew>This is AI.

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<v Drew>This is AI.

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<v Drew>This is an AI this is an AI

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<v Drew>generated email.

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<v Drew>This is this is

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<v Drew>this is the future Sam Altman wants.

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<v Drew>This is why I can't have RAM.

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<v Drew>Uh

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<v Paul>and

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<v Paul>we are number five when searching for engineering certification exhibits.

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<v Drew>Okay, hold on.

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<v Drew>I

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<v Drew>I I

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<v Drew>I does it

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<v Drew>I does is have to know.

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<v Drew>What was the search term?

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<v Paul>Small screen layout

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<v Drew>Small screen layout podcast.

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<v Paul>Just go to Apple

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<v Paul>but this is the searching on Apple Podcasts.

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<v Drew>Okay, so I'm gonna go to Apple Podcasts.

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<v Drew>Okay.

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<v Paul>I didn't try any of these.

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<v Paul>I just I just was like

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<v Paul>sure, buddy.

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<v Paul>And I'm also

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<v Paul>trying to think.

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<v Paul>How?

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<v Paul>How?

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<v Paul>We've never talked about small screen layout, but that's okay.

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<v Drew>Okay.

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<v Drew>I am

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<v Drew>trying to search.

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<v Paul>Okay.

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<v Drew>Okay.

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<v Drew>So

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<v Drew>small screen

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<v Drew>screen layout.

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<v Drew>Top results.

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<v Drew>What what were we?

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<v Paul>We're number one apparently.

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<v Drew>We're not.

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<v Drew>Oh no, wait, there we are.

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<v Drew>Shows.

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<v Drew>I'm sure they're doing their best.

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<v Paul>Oh shit!

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<v Paul>Really?

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<v Drew>Yeah.

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<v Drew>But we're n

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<v Drew>we're not

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<v Drew>so

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<v Drew>it it

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<v Drew>yeah, like when when I go there,

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<v Drew>there's like

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<v Drew>top results

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<v Drew>and then there's like

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<v Drew>episodes, but then there's also shows.

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<v Paul>Okay.

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<v Drew>I'm sure they're doing their best.

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<v Drew>Design for change

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<v Drew>with Jagadish.

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<v Drew>Talaseive Tech

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<v Drew>Streams.

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<v Drew>ACB

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<v Drew>ACB radio.

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<v Paul>There we are.

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<v Paul>There we are.

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<v Paul>Shows.

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<v Drew>And then there's an episode about HTML5

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<v Drew>and CSS.

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<v Paul>Yeah.

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<v Paul>Yeah.

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<v Paul>Yeah.

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<v Paul>Well, I guess this person wasn't blowing smoke up our ass.

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<v Paul>Though

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<v Paul>I want to know what we talked about to be number one in small screen layout.

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<v Paul>But what was the second one?

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<v Paul>Color changing playhouse lamps.

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<v Drew>Power changing playhouse lamps.

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<v Drew>We are number one, two, three, four, five, six.

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<v Drew>Okay.

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<v Drew>We're number seven.

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<v Paul>Okay.

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<v Paul>Okay, we've dropped we've dropped five in that crucial category.

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<v Paul>Maybe this will be the one that gets us back up to the top.

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<v Paul>Okay, so I've got I've got one more to share with you.

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<v Drew>Alright, I'm ready.

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<v Drew>I'm not

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<v Paul>gonna I that guy didn't even give you this one a title.

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<v Paul>I came across

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<v Paul>I'm sure they're doing their best

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<v Paul>because you publish it as a podcast.

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<v Paul>No

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<v Drew>shit.

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<v Paul>No shit.

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<v Paul>You may

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<v Paul>simply think

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<v Paul>of the bat catalogue as past

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<v Paul>episodes

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<v Paul>but it also means you already have something rather valuable.

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<v Paul>A

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<v Paul>substantial body of stories, ideas, arguments, and conversations.

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<v Paul>that

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<v Paul>could potentially

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<v Paul>be shaped into

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<v Paul>a book.

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<v Drew>Okay, go on.

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<v Paul>Those episodes might already contain the material for a memo

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<v Paul>memoir, business book, practical guide,

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<v Paul>leadership book, or expert-led

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<v Paul>nonfiction

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<v Paul>book.

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<v Paul>Without you having to start again from a bank

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<v Paul>blank page.

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<v Paul>And then it goes on

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<v Paul>basically

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<v Paul>pay me and I'll I'll send you

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<v Paul>I'll I'll let you know what your book looks like based off your podcast archive.

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<v Paul>Okay

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<v Drew>now

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<v Drew>hold on.

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<v Drew>No, hold on.

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<v Drew>Hold on a second.

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<v Drew>Mm-hmm.

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<v Drew>Let's just let's just

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<v Drew>let's just let's just

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<v Drew>let's just think about this.

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<v Drew>Let's just think about this for a minute.

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<v Paul>Okay, okay.

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<v Drew>Are we ready?

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<v Drew>Are we

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<v Drew>are

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<v Drew>we ready to enter the world of publishing?

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<v Drew>Is it time?

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<v Paul>Maybe.

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<v Paul>I don't know.

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<v Drew>What does

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<v Drew>what

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<v Paul>would the book be about?

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<v Drew>I don't care.

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<v Drew>What

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<v Drew>what

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<v Drew>what

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<v Drew>what's the price tag?

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<v Paul>I

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<v Paul>it I d it does not say.

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<v Paul>I just have to

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<v Paul>should I ever

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<v Paul>should I respond

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<v Paul>should I respond to this one and go

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<v Paul>Huh, we're interested.

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<v Paul>Tell me more.

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<v Drew>Okay.

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<v Drew>If the goal of this segment is just to highlight the sketchy shit we get said on YouTube, great.

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<v Drew>But we could turn this into like a Brewster

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<v Drew>'s Million situation.

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<v Drew>Where we we we get pitched ideas and we just decide

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<v Drew>as long as the price tag isn't like thousands of dollars,

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<v Drew>just to see what these weirdos are up to with all this.

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<v Drew>Alright.

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<v Paul>Okay.

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<v Paul>Well

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<v Paul>I'll take that as it's to do.

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<v Paul>I will I will email this guy and go, a bookie, say?

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<v Paul>Tell me more.

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<v Drew>Tell me more.

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<v Paul>Okay.

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<v Drew>And

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<v Drew>it it ha

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<v Drew>okay, so here's the rules.

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<v Drew>Here's the rules.

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<v Drew>Okay.

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<v Drew>Number one, we're gonna reply to that.

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<v Drew>We're gonna reply to this person.

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<v Drew>We're gonna say that we'd like to learn more.

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<v Drew>No, we will not attempt a Zoom call.

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<v Drew>This should all be done via email.

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<v Drew>Unless we're allowed to record the Zoom call

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<v Drew>on the air.

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<v Paul>For content.

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<v Paul>Okay.

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<v Drew>For content.

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<v Drew>If we can do that, then then I'm fine.

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<v Drew>Okay.

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<v Drew>Number two, it has to be a real book.

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<v Drew>It has to be a physical book that I can touch.

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<v Drew>I don't want an ebook.

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<v Paul>Okay.

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<v Paul>Well, you can self-publish your own book for the Amazon now.

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<v Paul>No,

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<v Drew>no, no.

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<v Drew>I will I

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<v Drew>No, you can make a physical book through Amazon.

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<v Drew>I have rules for life.

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<v Drew>I have rules for life.

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<v Drew>Number one rule for life, I will never own a Corvette.

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<v Drew>Number two

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<v Drew>rule for life, I will never stoop to self-publishing a book.

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<v Paul>Okay.

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<v Paul>Okay

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<v Drew>So

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<v Drew>those the I have other rules, but we don't need to go

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<v Drew>right now.

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<v Drew>Okay, I I'm interested.

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<v Paul>Okay.

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<v Drew>So how

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<v Drew>like how often do we get these kind of emails?

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<v Drew>Like every day?

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<v Paul>Oh

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<v Paul>we get at least like two or three a week.

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<v Drew>Okay.

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<v Paul>And most

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<v Paul>most of them, most of them now are

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<v Paul>pay me and I'll increase your visibility on YouTube.

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<v Paul>That's

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<v Paul>that's the most.

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<v Paul>Yes, exactly.

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<v Paul>They see our account.

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<v Paul>With an email, they send us an email.

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<v Paul>And like I said, b before we had the YouTube

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<v Paul>account, it was mostly bot

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<v Paul>saying, I can put you on YouTube.

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<v Paul>Or

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<v Paul>you should be on YouTube, and now they're

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<v Paul>let

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<v Paul>me help you on YouTube.

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<v Paul>Whatever.

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<v Paul>It's fine.

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<v Paul>Uh

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<v Drew>all right.

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<v Drew>Okay.

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<v Paul>Uh

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<v Paul>oh.

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<v Paul>Uh

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<v Paul>okay.

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<v Paul>Surprise

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<v Paul>surprise mini topic.

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<v Paul>So

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<v Paul>I'm gonna hold the the content for most of this until next time we record.

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<v Drew>Okay.

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<v Paul>But I I got something today, Drew.

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<v Drew>You got something today

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<v Drew>Okay, okay.

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<v Drew>Oh

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<v Drew>buddy.

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<v Drew>Oh

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<v Drew>buddy, I'm

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<v Drew>dying to talk to you about this.

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<v Drew>So I won't say it out loud.

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<v Drew>No, no, no.

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<v Drew>I won't say it out loud.

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<v Drew>We'll make people go we'll make people go to the YouTube

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<v Drew>channel to show what you just flashed on the screen.

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<v Paul>Okay.

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<v Drew>If if we have time.

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<v Paul>Okay, okay.

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<v Drew>I would love to hear initial impressions.

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<v Paul>Okay, okay, okay, okay.

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<v Paul>All right.

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<v Paul>Should we

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<v Paul>I can do it rolling?

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<v Paul>I can do it now.

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<v Paul>Uh

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<v Paul>because

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<v Paul>I had I have initial

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<v Paul>initial impressions.

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<v Drew>Alright, let's do it.

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<v Drew>All right.

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<v Paul>I'm holding an iPhone

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<v Paul>duo.

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<v Drew>Okay.

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<v Drew>So let's talk about it

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<v Drew>because

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<v Drew>I have seen.

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<v Paul>Mm-hmm.

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<v Drew>Uh

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<v Drew>we'll call this a mini review.

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<v Drew>Um

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<v Drew>I have seen people

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<v Drew>are

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<v Drew>breaking these things.

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<v Paul>Crack gate.

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<v Paul>Yes, apparently that

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<v Paul>a small number of

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<v Paul>uh

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<v Paul>iPhone

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<v Paul>duos are having issues with the hinge, which is causing the screen to break.

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<v Drew>Okay.

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<v Paul>I literally got this at like

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<v Paul>1.

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<v Paul>30 today.

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<v Paul>So like

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<v Paul>in and then

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<v Paul>and then I was at work, so I really didn't use a whole lot of it.

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<v Paul>And then I spent most of it just setting it up and signing into all the things.

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<v Paul>So I really haven't used it a whole lot.

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<v Drew>Okay.

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<v Drew>So

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<v Drew>initial impressions.

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<v Paul>Okay.

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<v Paul>Uh

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<v Paul>I do not mind the size of the sm

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<v Paul>the outer screen, the small screen.

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<v Drew>Okay.

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<v Paul>It's fine.

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<v Paul>But boy, is she thick when she is folded.

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<v Drew>Okay, let me see.

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<v Drew>Fold it.

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<v Drew>Fold it and hold it next to your other phone.

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<v Drew>Boy

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<v Drew>she

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<v Drew>thick.

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<v Drew>Uh

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<v Drew>it doesn't look

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<v Drew>It doesn't I don't know.

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<v Drew>I'm having a hard time being a judge.

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<v Drew>I I can see how it is thicker, but it doesn't look that much thicker.

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<v Paul>It's thick and it's heavy.

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<v Paul>Oh

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<v Drew>heavy.

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<v Drew>Heavy.

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<v Paul>It's

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<v Paul>it's heavy.

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<v Paul>It's the these are these

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<v Paul>heavier than the max size phones.

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<v Drew>Okay.

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<v Paul>So I don't like the size of the small screen, fine.

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<v Paul>Thick.

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<v Paul>Thick.

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<v Paul>Starchad

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<v Paul>dealing d

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<v Paul>just figuring that out.

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<v Paul>Uh, inner screen, gorgeous.

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<v Paul>The nano

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<v Paul>the nanotexture display

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<v Paul>works great.

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<v Paul>Yes, if you go snooping for the crease, you can see it, and I do know that it will be more visible as I use it.

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<v Paul>I get that

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<v Paul>Uh

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<v Paul>touch

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<v Paul>ID is kind of a pain in the ass, though in my defense, I did

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<v Paul>spend a lot of time using it to unlock one password to copy passwords and put it into things today.

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<v Paul>So it was especially annoying.

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<v Paul>I

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<v Paul>imagine that will

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<v Paul>go away over time.

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<v Paul>I also just turned on the unlock with

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<v Paul>Apple watch, which seems to just work.

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<v Paul>You just unlock it and he goes, I unlocked for you your watch, and it taps you on the wrist and it's all good.

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<v Paul>Outer

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<v Paul>sc

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<v Paul>inner screen, beautiful.

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<v Paul>Uh

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<v Paul>apps that don't resize

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<v Paul>or haven't been updated, like open my mindsweeper app.

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<v Paul>Look like ass.

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<v Paul>Uh

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<v Paul>but

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<v Paul>you could

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<v Paul>uh

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<v Paul>the multitasking, I could run it side by side with another app.

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<v Paul>That does work really well.

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<v Paul>So far, I

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<v Paul>like it

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<v Paul>so far.

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<v Drew>Okay.

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<v Paul>I like it.

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<v Drew>So when we when we last discussed this topic, the question was going to be, will

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<v Drew>Jennifer like this?

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<v Paul>Uh

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<v Paul>she

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<v Paul>I showed it to her when she got home and she was like, nope, nope, nope, don't like it.

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<v Paul>Do not like it.

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<v Drew>So this is yours.

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<v Drew>That was

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<v Paul>that was the

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<v Drew>that was the thing.

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<v Paul>I have 14 days to decide whether I'm keeping it or not

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<v Drew>Okay.

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<v Drew>So uh.

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<v Paul>Yep, yep.

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<v Paul>Uh

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<v Paul>I

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<v Paul>I do

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<v Paul>hold my breath

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<v Paul>Still when I close it.

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<v Paul>Like is this

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<v Paul>is this the time?

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<v Paul>But I'm trying to get past that, so I just I don't think about it.

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<v Paul>Chances are my phone will be fine and I have Apple Care on it and

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<v Paul>I can go to a store and get a new one and in

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<v Paul>but yeah.

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<v Drew>Now

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<v Drew>you got the white one.

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<v Paul>I did.

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<v Drew>Okay.

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<v Drew>Because when you were holding it before it looked grey from a s

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<v Drew>from a tigar.

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<v Paul>Apple, Apple's little, it's a little folio case, so it covers the screen.

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<v Paul>You can open it like this, and then and then this is this watch

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<v Paul>boop

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<v Drew>A stand.

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<v Paul>A little kickstand.

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<v Paul>Boop.

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<v Paul>And the hinges are like on the inside, so they they they disappear.

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<v Drew>Those are metal hinges.

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<v Paul>Uh-huh.

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<v Paul>Yeah.

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<v Paul>It's metal hinges on the inside.

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<v Drew>We love a good metal hinge.

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<v Paul>Uh-huh.

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<v Paul>Yeah.

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<v Paul>Yeah.

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<v Paul>But like

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<v Paul>they're designed in a way that it kinda like

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<v Paul>folds back up

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<v Paul>so they're not like always like

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<v Paul>it's not too much of a bump

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<v Paul>Yeah, it's it's

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<v Paul>it's

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<v Paul>it's nice.

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<v Paul>I do have another case coming tomorrow from Amazon, and I may

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<v Paul>buy another one just to kind of see what I like, though.

00:16:14.180 --> 00:16:16.820
<v Paul>It's already thick, cases add additional bulk.

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<v Paul>So I like this one because

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<v Paul>it's just magnetic.

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<v Paul>I can take it off.

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<v Paul>And a lot of I've learned that a lot of uh cases for folding phones require adhesive

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<v Paul>Because they're so thin.

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<v Paul>So like if you get a case that goes on like this outer display here, most of them have adhesive on the inside of the case

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<v Paul>to keep the

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<v Paul>keep the the case from coming up.

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<v Paul>Apparently it's

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<v Paul>Bray po

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<v Paul>very

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<v Paul>common in all folding phones for cases to have adhesive.

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<v Drew>But I'm sure it's like removable adhesive,

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<v Drew>right?

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<v Drew>Okay.

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<v Drew>So it's just temp

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<v Drew>okay.

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<v Paul>Yeah.

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<v Paul>But I

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<v Drew>think it's gonna like damage your phone longer.

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<v Paul>I mean Apple's own

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<v Paul>the the other case that Apple sells

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<v Paul>uh

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<v Paul>has adhesive as well.

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<v Paul>So

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<v Paul>th

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<v Paul>I imagine they wouldn't sell something that, you know

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<v Paul>Yep.

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<v Paul>So

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<v Paul>again, just got it.

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<v Paul>Only had it for a few hours.

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<v Paul>Only haven't really consumed.

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<v Paul>I haven't watched any videos.

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<v Paul>I haven't done

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<v Paul>I did read

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<v Paul>Reddit for a little bit.

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<v Paul>Some of the apps I really wanted to to try on it are haven't been updated yet and look like ass, like the app I use for reading books and reading comics.

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<v Paul>I hope they get updated at some point because I think reading comics on this thing would be killer.

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<v Drew>I think that would be killer.

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<v Paul>So

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<v Drew>interesting.

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<v Drew>It's it's a little bit bigger than I imagine.

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<v Drew>I have not had a chance to see one up close yet.

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<v Paul>Yeah.

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<v Paul>Yeah.

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<v Paul>It's

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<v Paul>It's it's really is the inner screen

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<v Paul>really is a nice size.

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<v Paul>It's it's good.

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<v Paul>Running two apps side by side is nice.

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<v Paul>Uh

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<v Paul>But

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<v Paul>that

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<v Paul>yeah, and uh I was really worried about the size of the outer screen being too small.

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<v Paul>That's not the problem.

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<v Paul>It's just sh she

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<v Paul>she

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<v Paul>thick.

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<v Paul>She

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<v Paul>thick

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<v Paul>boy.

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<v Drew>I mean I have smaller hands, so I would wonder how comfortable that would be.

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<v Paul>No.

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<v Paul>I am

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<v Paul>Trying this as well.

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<v Drew>A pop

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<v Drew>socket.

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<v Paul>Pop socket

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<v Paul>to see if that helps.

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<v Paul>So

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<v Drew>Okay.

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<v Paul>Yeah.

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<v Drew>Okay.

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<v Drew>You're a big pop

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<v Drew>socket

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<v Drew>boy.

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<v Paul>Mm-hmm.

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<v Drew>Okay.

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<v Drew>All right.

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<v Drew>I'm I'm very curious to hear more.

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<v Drew>Very curious to hear more as

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<v Drew>as your experience with it grows.

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<v Paul>But uh

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<v Drew>I re

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<v Drew>I I

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<v Drew>I wondered if you had gotten it

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<v Drew>because we had talked about it.

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<v Drew>You said you were gonna

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<v Drew>potentially order one.

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<v Drew>It didn't sound like you were 100%

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<v Drew>committed.

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<v Paul>I did

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<v Paul>pre-order one, obviously, on

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<v Paul>whenever the date came out, or

00:18:34.480 --> 00:18:35.920
<v Paul>the pre-order date was.

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<v Paul>Uh

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<v Paul>I made the mistake

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<v Paul>of

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<v Paul>trying to get get like a pickup time at a store, and every time I picked a time, by the time I hit the next button, they were gone.

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<v Paul>So

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<v Paul>but but

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<v Paul>by the time I said

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<v Paul>fuck it just

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<v Paul>deliver it to me it was out to November second

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<v Paul>to November ninth.

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<v Paul>Today

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<v Paul>is November fifth, right in the middle of that time.

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<v Paul>Uh

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<v Paul>I got it today, this afternoon.

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<v Paul>Uh

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<v Paul>so

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<v Paul>Yeah.

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<v Drew>Okay.

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<v Drew>All right.

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<v Drew>Well let's put a pin in that.

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<v Drew>Mm-hmm.

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<v Drew>And um

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<v Drew>let's spend the next twenty

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<v Drew>or so minutes mourning the loss of stuff that we love.

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<v Paul>Yes.

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<v Paul>Yes.

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<v Paul>The first

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<v Paul>one

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<v Paul>EA

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<v Paul>is

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<v Paul>shuttering

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<v Paul>Bioware

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<v Paul>Game Studio

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<v Drew>Yeah, now for those of you that don't know, Bioware

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<v Drew>makes phenomenal games.

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<v Drew>Um

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<v Paul>did make phenomenal games and then they made Anthem.

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<v Drew>Right.

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<v Drew>Right.

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<v Drew>But Bioware makes one of my game series that I think I would probably put in my top five if not if not my top three, and that is the Mass Effect trilogy.

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<v Paul>Mass Effect maybe

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<v Drew>I remember if

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<v Drew>you really want to go deep in the back

00:19:48.780 --> 00:19:50.540
<v Drew>catalog, there was a series

00:19:50.660 --> 00:19:52.180
<v Drew>Uh probably in the low hundreds,

00:19:52.660 --> 00:19:55.140
<v Drew>where I had convinced you to play the trilogy

00:19:55.540 --> 00:19:56.980
<v Drew>and you were experiencing it for the first time.

00:19:58.900 --> 00:19:59.220
<v Drew>Um

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<v Drew>Yeah, I mean look that is one of those games in that entire trilogy

00:20:03.560 --> 00:20:05.960
<v Drew>and the storytelling and the characters and how

00:20:06.360 --> 00:20:06.760
<v Drew>you know

00:20:06.920 --> 00:20:08.760
<v Drew>some of the missions and some of the care

00:20:09.080 --> 00:20:11.800
<v Drew>and some of the things you go through in that game are just amazing.

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<v Drew>I know you also played Dragon Origins.

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<v Drew>Dragon Age Orange.

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<v Paul>Dragon Age Orange.

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<v Paul>Yeah, and

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<v Paul>I really enjoyed the Vale Guard, the last game that came out.

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<v Paul>It was

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<v Paul>very

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<v Paul>kind of action-y.

00:20:22.940 --> 00:20:26.220
<v Paul>Less more action-y, less role play, but it was still really good.

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<v Paul>Yeah.

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<v Drew>Yeah.

00:20:27.100 --> 00:20:27.980
<v Paul>Yeah.

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<v Drew>So

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<v Drew>EA's gonna EA.

00:20:31.420 --> 00:20:34.060
<v Drew>They just want to make football games and shooty games.

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<v Paul>Apparently.

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<v Drew>Uh

00:20:36.180 --> 00:20:36.900
<v Drew>this sucks.

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<v Drew>This really

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<v Drew>sucks

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<v Drew>because I they I

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<v Drew>apparently they were working on a new Mass

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<v Drew>Effect game.

00:20:41.940 --> 00:20:43.140
<v Paul>Yeah, yeah.

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<v Drew>And they were getting close to

00:20:45.460 --> 00:20:45.620
<v Drew>w

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<v Drew>finishing it

00:20:46.740 --> 00:20:48.740
<v Drew>and now they're done.

00:20:48.740 --> 00:20:49.060
<v Drew>And

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<v Drew>I'm sure that somebody like it's m uh I'm sure EA owns the rights maybe to the Mass Effect name.

00:20:55.660 --> 00:20:56.860
<v Paul>I'm sure they're holding on to.

00:20:56.860 --> 00:20:58.380
<v Paul>Yeah, I'm sure

00:20:58.700 --> 00:20:58.940
<v Paul>they

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<v Paul>do.

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<v Paul>Yeah.

00:21:02.060 --> 00:21:02.940
<v Paul>It just it sucks.

00:21:02.940 --> 00:21:06.940
<v Paul>I mean it's it's a bad time to be a video game developer in general, but

00:21:07.100 --> 00:21:07.820
<v Paul>to see us

00:21:08.060 --> 00:21:08.300
<v Paul>like

00:21:08.460 --> 00:21:09.500
<v Paul>a studio that

00:21:09.660 --> 00:21:11.180
<v Paul>I mean granted, yeah, Anthem

00:21:11.420 --> 00:21:12.700
<v Paul>did stink.

00:21:12.660 --> 00:21:13.060
<v Drew>Anthem.

00:21:13.380 --> 00:21:13.940
<v Paul>Whatever.

00:21:14.100 --> 00:21:14.180
<v Drew>But

00:21:15.140 --> 00:21:15.860
<v Paul>it was uh

00:21:16.100 --> 00:21:17.540
<v Paul>such a beloved studio

00:21:17.700 --> 00:21:18.260
<v Paul>with beloved

00:21:18.500 --> 00:21:20.420
<v Paul>IP, and it's really sad.

00:21:20.420 --> 00:21:25.220
<v Paul>I mean, maybe EA will give it to another studio to build something, but at this point

00:21:25.880 --> 00:21:26.200
<v Paul>I

00:21:26.360 --> 00:21:29.320
<v Paul>I have a hard time believing that's gonna happen anytime soon

00:21:29.480 --> 00:21:30.360
<v Paul>because it's

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<v Paul>I don't know, it's video

00:21:32.520 --> 00:21:34.040
<v Paul>games be tough.

00:21:34.240 --> 00:21:35.280
<v Drew>Yeah, I mean they did

00:21:35.440 --> 00:21:35.919
<v Drew>they did

00:21:36.160 --> 00:21:36.640
<v Drew>Boulders

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<v Drew>Gate, they did Jade Empire, Knights of the Old Republic, which again,

00:21:40.960 --> 00:21:41.280
<v Drew>if you ever

00:21:41.440 --> 00:21:43.840
<v Drew>played those games, fucking phenomenal.

00:21:45.140 --> 00:21:47.380
<v Drew>MDK2, which is a weird ass game.

00:21:47.380 --> 00:21:48.260
<v Drew>Did you ever play that?

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<v Paul>I never did, no.

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<v Drew>With the dog with the guns and the guy with the needle nose.

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<v Drew>Okay.

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<v Paul>Yeah.

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<v Drew>Never mind.

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<v Drew>Uh

00:21:54.740 --> 00:21:55.380
<v Drew>yeah.

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<v Drew>Knights

00:21:55.940 --> 00:21:57.860
<v Drew>yeah, Knights of the Old Republic.

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<v Drew>Um

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<v Drew>Was another good one, but I mean ma

00:22:00.660 --> 00:22:01.220
<v Drew>for me, Mass

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<v Drew>Effect was

00:22:02.180 --> 00:22:03.460
<v Paul>Mass Effect.

00:22:03.540 --> 00:22:03.940
<v Drew>Boulder's

00:22:04.100 --> 00:22:06.020
<v Drew>Boulder's Gate 2 was a banger.

00:22:06.340 --> 00:22:07.780
<v Drew>Bouldersgate two was a banger.

00:22:07.780 --> 00:22:10.900
<v Drew>I know everybody's like super hype for Boulder's Gate 3 these days, but

00:22:11.060 --> 00:22:13.700
<v Drew>Real OGs in the late nineties, early two thousands

00:22:13.860 --> 00:22:14.100
<v Drew>remembers

00:22:14.260 --> 00:22:14.980
<v Drew>Boulder Gate

00:22:15.140 --> 00:22:15.540
<v Drew>II

00:22:15.860 --> 00:22:18.420
<v Drew>and what a great game that was.

00:22:18.420 --> 00:22:18.740
<v Drew>Um

00:22:19.360 --> 00:22:25.279
<v Drew>And of course, as we mourn the passing of Mass Effect, there's been a lot of digital ink spilled

00:22:25.440 --> 00:22:25.760
<v Drew>about

00:22:26.000 --> 00:22:26.159
<v Drew>here

00:22:26.320 --> 00:22:30.159
<v Drew>were the top ten, you know,

00:22:29.580 --> 00:22:29.900
<v Drew>moments

00:22:30.059 --> 00:22:31.340
<v Drew>in the Mass Effect series.

00:22:31.340 --> 00:22:32.940
<v Drew>Number six will make you fuck your dad.

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<v Drew>It was just like

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<v Drew>but uh

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<v Drew>but there

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<v Drew>but there were like

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<v Drew>I don't know.

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<v Drew>Just some of the characters from that game just still stick with me.

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<v Drew>Mordon

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<v Drew>Solace and Thane

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<v Drew>and

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<v Paul>Yeah

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<v Paul>uh

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<v Drew>Tally

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<v Drew>and all those

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<v Paul>Meaningful Decisions.

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<v Paul>Very meaningful.

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<v Paul>Story elements crossed across games

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<v Paul>and

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<v Paul>yeah.

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<v Drew>I

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<v Drew>okay, so here

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<v Drew>this is this is a super obscure bit of trivia.

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<v Paul>Okay.

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<v Drew>Have you ever heard of the name of of the game

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<v Drew>Frog Fractions?

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<v Paul>I think

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<v Paul>so.

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<v Paul>Yeah.

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<v Paul>It's

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<v Paul>it's uh

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<v Paul>Let's see, hold on.

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<v Paul>Frog

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<v Paul>fractions.

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<v Drew>Okay.

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<v Paul>There

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<v Drew>spoil

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<v Drew>spoil we we need a spoiler horn.

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<v Drew>We need a spoiler horn right now.

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<v Paul>Okay, okay, I'll put

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<v Paul>I'll put a spoiler

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<v Paul>spoiler horn for frog fractions

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<v Paul>the video

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<v Paul>game

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<v SPOILERS>Hey

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<v SPOILERS>nerds, there's gonna be spoilers.

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<v Drew>Okay, so so

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<v Drew>first and foremost, um

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<v Drew>if you stick

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<v Drew>if you stayed through the spoiler horn, you should go play Frog Fractions, first of all.

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<v Drew>It is an entertainment

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<v Drew>game

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<v Drew>that is not

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<v Drew>it is not what it seems.

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<v Paul>Okay.

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<v Drew>and turn it into different genres of games.

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<v Drew>Like

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<v Drew>like a ro

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<v Drew>like a like a romance simulator, a a shoot 'em

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<v Drew>up, like

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<v Drew>you you yeah.

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<v Drew>Do you play

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<v Drew>you play as hop

00:24:05.820 --> 00:24:06.460
<v Drew>And uh

00:24:06.620 --> 00:24:07.260
<v Drew>then you get on

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<v Drew>you get put on trial for kill

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<v Drew>for your crimes against the bugs that you eat as part of frog fractions.

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<v Drew>There's

00:24:13.580 --> 00:24:13.980
<v Drew>there's a ser

00:24:14.300 --> 00:24:17.420
<v Drew>there's there's a section where it asks you to import your Mass Effect 2

00:24:17.580 --> 00:24:18.380
<v Drew>save.

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<v Drew>It does nothing.

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<v Paul>Okay, we just once

00:24:22.240 --> 00:24:22.400
<v Paul>it's

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<v Drew>yeah.

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<v Drew>But that that's the kind of cultural impact that Mass Effect has.

00:24:26.640 --> 00:24:26.960
<v Drew>Like there

00:24:27.120 --> 00:24:29.920
<v Drew>there is a game that lets you import your Mass Effects

00:24:30.240 --> 00:24:30.400
<v Drew>into

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<v Drew>data

00:24:31.520 --> 00:24:32.960
<v Drew>that does nothing.

00:24:32.960 --> 00:24:34.880
<v Drew>But go play Frog Fractions.

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<v Paul>Yeah.

00:24:35.440 --> 00:24:36.240
<v Paul>Okay.

00:24:36.400 --> 00:24:36.720
<v Drew>Um

00:24:36.880 --> 00:24:36.960
<v Drew>what

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<v Drew>was what was your like if you had to think of like the best moment in a bioware game that you can think of, like

00:24:42.320 --> 00:24:43.920
<v Drew>what are you thinking?

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<v Paul>I mean

00:24:48.160 --> 00:24:48.320
<v Paul>S

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<v Paul>I I

00:24:49.440 --> 00:24:49.520
<v Paul>t

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<v Paul>two

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<v Paul>two

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<v Paul>uh was it Bio War II that had the space

00:24:52.880 --> 00:24:53.680
<v Paul>hamster?

00:24:53.680 --> 00:24:53.920
<v Paul>Uh

00:24:54.160 --> 00:24:54.800
<v Paul>or is that Bio

00:24:54.960 --> 00:24:55.040
<v Paul>War

00:24:55.360 --> 00:24:55.440
<v Paul>or

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<v Paul>I mean uh

00:24:56.240 --> 00:24:56.560
<v Paul>uh

00:24:56.720 --> 00:24:57.120
<v Paul>no which

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<v Paul>what it's

00:24:58.000 --> 00:24:58.080
<v Paul>the

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<v Paul>the it was it Neverwinter Nights that had the space

00:25:00.320 --> 00:25:01.360
<v Paul>hamster or was that

00:25:01.740 --> 00:25:01.820
<v Paul>Uh

00:25:01.980 --> 00:25:03.100
<v Paul>Baldur's Gate.

00:25:03.100 --> 00:25:03.500
<v Paul>The character

00:25:04.220 --> 00:25:07.420
<v Paul>the g the one like the warrior that had a little hamster.

00:25:07.420 --> 00:25:07.740
<v Drew>Oh

00:25:08.140 --> 00:25:09.500
<v Drew>that was Baldur's Gate too, I think.

00:25:09.580 --> 00:25:10.060
<v Paul>Okay, Border Gate

00:25:10.380 --> 00:25:11.580
<v Paul>I think it was Baldur Gates too.

00:25:11.580 --> 00:25:11.740
<v Paul>Yeah.

00:25:15.360 --> 00:25:16.559
<v Paul>Th the first time

00:25:16.799 --> 00:25:22.320
<v Paul>you had a crew member die in Mass Effect, Mass Effect one, right, like

00:25:22.480 --> 00:25:25.519
<v Paul>that first decision, you you have to pick like who you go with

00:25:25.760 --> 00:25:28.240
<v Paul>and then the other party member dies

00:25:30.460 --> 00:25:31.100
<v Drew>And by the way,

00:25:31.500 --> 00:25:32.700
<v Drew>there is a correct answer.

00:25:33.100 --> 00:25:34.059
<v Drew>There's a correct answer.

00:25:34.059 --> 00:25:35.020
<v Drew>Always let Ashley die.

00:25:35.020 --> 00:25:35.820
<v Drew>Ashley's the space

00:25:35.980 --> 00:25:36.620
<v Drew>Nazi.

00:25:36.620 --> 00:25:37.340
<v Drew>Ashley's a space

00:25:37.500 --> 00:25:37.980
<v Drew>Nazi.

00:25:37.980 --> 00:25:39.260
<v Drew>Always let Ashley die.

00:25:40.140 --> 00:25:40.620
<v Drew>Yeah.

00:25:41.100 --> 00:25:42.380
<v Drew>Yeah.

00:25:42.440 --> 00:25:42.840
<v Paul>Or maybe the

00:25:43.000 --> 00:25:45.320
<v Paul>the first the first sex scene you unlock.

00:25:45.320 --> 00:25:46.680
<v Paul>That that's yeah.

00:25:47.240 --> 00:25:47.960
<v Drew>Yeah.

00:25:48.360 --> 00:25:49.240
<v Drew>Yep.

00:25:49.240 --> 00:25:49.560
<v Drew>Um

00:25:49.880 --> 00:25:50.920
<v Drew>yeah.

00:25:50.860 --> 00:25:51.179
<v Paul>Yeah.

00:25:56.940 --> 00:25:57.260
<v Drew>And

00:25:57.419 --> 00:25:57.659
<v Drew>how

00:25:57.820 --> 00:25:59.899
<v Drew>if you don't take the time to actually learn

00:26:00.260 --> 00:26:01.220
<v Drew>who your crew is, they

00:26:01.380 --> 00:26:02.500
<v Drew>just all get wiped out.

00:26:02.500 --> 00:26:02.900
<v Paul>Yeah.

00:26:02.900 --> 00:26:03.220
<v Drew>Right.

00:26:03.220 --> 00:26:03.620
<v Drew>Yeah.

00:26:03.780 --> 00:26:11.140
<v Drew>If you do if you do everything right and get the quote unquote good ending for Mass Effect 2 and everybody survives if you make all the right choices.

00:26:11.500 --> 00:26:11.740
<v Drew>Um

00:26:11.900 --> 00:26:14.539
<v Drew>I remember the first time I did it, I think I lost half my crew.

00:26:14.539 --> 00:26:14.620
<v Drew>Uh

00:26:14.780 --> 00:26:15.179
<v Drew>just because I

00:26:15.419 --> 00:26:16.620
<v Drew>I sent the wrong people.

00:26:16.620 --> 00:26:18.299
<v Paul>I think I lost someone

00:26:18.460 --> 00:26:18.780
<v Paul>uh

00:26:19.140 --> 00:26:19.380
<v Paul>The fur

00:26:19.540 --> 00:26:20.580
<v Paul>yeah, that time too.

00:26:20.580 --> 00:26:24.900
<v Paul>And I I was just yeah, I was just rolling with it, no spoilers, just playing, just doing my thing.

00:26:31.040 --> 00:26:31.760
<v Drew>Some of the choices

00:26:31.920 --> 00:26:32.880
<v Drew>make really good sense.

00:26:32.880 --> 00:26:34.800
<v Drew>Some of the choices make no sense.

00:26:34.800 --> 00:26:36.880
<v Drew>So you really are just kind of at the mercy of

00:26:37.040 --> 00:26:37.360
<v Drew>did you

00:26:37.520 --> 00:26:39.040
<v Drew>did you choose the right thing?

00:26:39.419 --> 00:26:40.140
<v Drew>Yeah.

00:26:40.299 --> 00:26:41.419
<v Drew>Just great games.

00:26:41.419 --> 00:26:43.419
<v Drew>I'm really sad that they canceled everything.

00:26:43.419 --> 00:26:43.980
<v Paul>Yeah, it's

00:26:44.140 --> 00:26:45.820
<v Paul>it's a it's a bummer.

00:26:45.820 --> 00:26:50.620
<v Drew>But I bet you you're probably more upset about the next thing.

00:26:51.240 --> 00:26:55.480
<v Paul>Oh, Drew, Drew, Drew, my

00:26:55.640 --> 00:26:56.280
<v Paul>beloved

00:26:56.600 --> 00:26:56.840
<v Paul>web

00:26:57.160 --> 00:26:58.919
<v Paul>browser, Ark.

00:26:59.300 --> 00:27:02.260
<v Paul>is being sunset, which

00:27:02.500 --> 00:27:03.060
<v Paul>means

00:27:03.220 --> 00:27:03.460
<v Paul>I'm

00:27:03.620 --> 00:27:05.700
<v Drew>ready to pour one out for arc.

00:27:07.940 --> 00:27:10.340
<v Paul>As of, let's see, here's the dates.

00:27:10.340 --> 00:27:10.500
<v Paul>Uh

00:27:10.660 --> 00:27:10.740
<v Paul>they

00:27:10.900 --> 00:27:14.340
<v Paul>announced it on October 22nd.

00:27:14.340 --> 00:27:14.580
<v Paul>Uh

00:27:14.740 --> 00:27:19.860
<v Paul>starting November 23rd, Arc Search for iOS and Android keep working as a browser.

00:27:19.840 --> 00:27:23.679
<v Paul>But the AI features get turned off and sync gets turned off.

00:27:23.679 --> 00:27:26.480
<v Paul>December 15th is the last day to request a personal

00:27:26.799 --> 00:27:30.880
<v Paul>copy of personal data related to your ARC account or ask us to delete it.

00:27:30.880 --> 00:27:31.679
<v Paul>And on December

00:27:31.840 --> 00:27:32.720
<v Paul>22nd

00:27:33.320 --> 00:27:36.120
<v Paul>Arc will no longer work.

00:27:36.120 --> 00:27:37.960
<v Paul>Period.

00:27:37.960 --> 00:27:39.560
<v Drew>Wow.

00:27:40.680 --> 00:27:42.520
<v Paul>Oh, it hurts, Drew.

00:27:42.520 --> 00:27:43.160
<v Paul>It hurts.

00:27:43.160 --> 00:27:43.480
<v Paul>Okay.

00:27:43.480 --> 00:27:43.560
<v Paul>But

00:27:43.880 --> 00:27:44.120
<v Drew>but

00:27:44.920 --> 00:27:45.160
<v Drew>but

00:27:47.960 --> 00:27:48.440
<v Paul>I've

00:27:48.600 --> 00:27:49.720
<v Paul>I've already moved

00:27:49.880 --> 00:27:51.960
<v Paul>I've moved on.

00:27:51.960 --> 00:27:52.760
<v Drew>Oh?

00:27:53.080 --> 00:27:54.120
<v Drew>Tadia?

00:27:54.120 --> 00:27:54.919
<v Paul>No, no, not to

00:27:55.080 --> 00:27:55.559
<v Paul>Dia.

00:27:55.559 --> 00:27:57.160
<v Paul>Because fuck the browser company.

00:27:57.160 --> 00:27:57.559
<v Paul>Fuck you.

00:27:57.559 --> 00:27:57.880
<v Paul>You hurt

00:27:58.120 --> 00:27:59.320
<v Paul>broke my heart.

00:27:59.780 --> 00:28:00.020
<v Paul>Wow.

00:28:00.260 --> 00:28:00.580
<v Drew>This is the

00:28:00.740 --> 00:28:02.580
<v Drew>I did not expect this heel turn.

00:28:02.580 --> 00:28:08.260
<v Paul>Atlassian owns them now, and it's only a matter of time before they fuck it up somehow.

00:28:08.900 --> 00:28:09.300
<v Drew>Okay.

00:28:09.540 --> 00:28:09.780
<v Paul>Or

00:28:10.020 --> 00:28:10.500
<v Paul>make it

00:28:10.740 --> 00:28:11.540
<v Paul>I don't know.

00:28:11.540 --> 00:28:11.620
<v Paul>Or

00:28:11.780 --> 00:28:13.220
<v Paul>do you have you have to have an Atlantea

00:28:13.460 --> 00:28:14.900
<v Paul>subscription to use Dia?

00:28:14.900 --> 00:28:18.100
<v Paul>It's definitely going to be a more of a work product because they own it.

00:28:18.100 --> 00:28:21.620
<v Paul>I'm just not interested in that or or mismanagement.

00:28:21.900 --> 00:28:22.540
<v Paul>Uh

00:28:23.500 --> 00:28:23.740
<v Paul>there

00:28:24.060 --> 00:28:24.700
<v Paul>have been

00:28:25.260 --> 00:28:28.220
<v Paul>ARC has inspired a lot of people, Drew.

00:28:28.220 --> 00:28:29.340
<v Paul>A lot of small

00:28:29.580 --> 00:28:29.980
<v Paul>indie

00:28:30.140 --> 00:28:31.420
<v Paul>developers.

00:28:31.600 --> 00:28:32.240
<v Paul>Uh

00:28:32.559 --> 00:28:33.039
<v Paul>there's

00:28:33.200 --> 00:28:34.080
<v Paul>obviously there's other

00:28:34.320 --> 00:28:37.760
<v Paul>there's other there's bigger players in the space like Zen.

00:28:37.760 --> 00:28:38.080
<v Paul>Uh

00:28:38.320 --> 00:28:40.159
<v Paul>there's uh what there's one called I think

00:28:40.320 --> 00:28:41.600
<v Paul>Vivaldi.

00:28:41.600 --> 00:28:41.760
<v Paul>Uh

00:28:41.919 --> 00:28:42.960
<v Paul>on the more indie

00:28:43.200 --> 00:28:46.000
<v Paul>space, there is yet another browser.

00:28:46.200 --> 00:28:46.520
<v Paul>And

00:28:46.680 --> 00:28:49.080
<v Paul>the one that I am currently test

00:28:49.320 --> 00:28:50.360
<v Paul>driving now

00:28:50.600 --> 00:28:53.000
<v Paul>is a browser called Crest.

00:28:53.320 --> 00:28:53.880
<v Drew>Crest.

00:28:54.280 --> 00:28:54.520
<v Drew>Crest.

00:28:54.760 --> 00:28:56.600
<v Paul>I've been linked to it there in the show notes.

00:28:58.160 --> 00:29:03.280
<v Paul>It's kind of hidden because it's so that that first link is so big, but yes, Crest Browser.

00:29:03.280 --> 00:29:03.919
<v Paul>com.

00:29:03.919 --> 00:29:04.240
<v Paul>Uh

00:29:04.720 --> 00:29:05.440
<v Drew>it looks very R

00:29:05.980 --> 00:29:06.460
<v Paul>It does.

00:29:06.460 --> 00:29:07.740
<v Paul>It's basically the the

00:29:07.900 --> 00:29:08.780
<v Paul>the developer

00:29:09.180 --> 00:29:09.500
<v Paul>you go

00:29:09.660 --> 00:29:11.500
<v Paul>on the website, it's like the browser for life

00:29:11.740 --> 00:29:13.340
<v Paul>life after arc.

00:29:14.320 --> 00:29:19.520
<v Paul>It's not exactly like ARC, but it has so far been close enough.

00:29:19.520 --> 00:29:19.760
<v Paul>Uh

00:29:20.000 --> 00:29:21.360
<v Paul>it is an indie

00:29:21.520 --> 00:29:27.120
<v Paul>development team, so it's a really small group of developers who are working on this.

00:29:27.140 --> 00:29:29.220
<v Paul>It's not even that version 1.

00:29:29.220 --> 00:29:29.460
<v Paul>0

00:29:29.780 --> 00:29:30.580
<v Paul>yet.

00:29:30.580 --> 00:29:31.220
<v Paul>Uh

00:29:31.620 --> 00:29:31.940
<v Paul>but

00:29:32.340 --> 00:29:33.220
<v Paul>I mean

00:29:34.580 --> 00:29:35.220
<v Paul>I see

00:29:35.460 --> 00:29:36.900
<v Paul>potential in Crest.

00:29:36.900 --> 00:29:37.780
<v Paul>It does

00:29:39.559 --> 00:29:39.799
<v Paul>have

00:29:39.960 --> 00:29:42.039
<v Paul>a lot of the same features.

00:29:42.039 --> 00:29:45.240
<v Paul>It's got the sidebar, it's got split view, it's very

00:29:45.400 --> 00:29:45.480
<v Paul>can

00:29:45.640 --> 00:29:47.320
<v Paul>be very keyboard driven

00:29:47.460 --> 00:29:50.100
<v Paul>There are some things I think they're tweaking in the next.

00:29:50.100 --> 00:29:51.140
<v Paul>I think if I got on the dev

00:29:51.300 --> 00:29:54.660
<v Paul>channel, some of the stuff that I don't like is already starting to be tweaked.

00:29:54.660 --> 00:29:54.820
<v Paul>Uh

00:29:54.980 --> 00:29:55.380
<v Paul>he's very

00:29:55.620 --> 00:29:57.060
<v Paul>he's got a very active, apparently

00:29:57.220 --> 00:29:58.980
<v Paul>Discord, and he's active on

00:29:59.460 --> 00:30:05.060
<v Paul>There's a Crest subreddit, so uh the main developer is very active there.

00:30:05.060 --> 00:30:06.900
<v Paul>So that is what I am trying now.

00:30:06.900 --> 00:30:07.380
<v Paul>And it's got

00:30:07.540 --> 00:30:11.700
<v Paul>the reason one of the reasons I like it, it has an iOS version as well.

00:30:11.560 --> 00:30:12.920
<v Paul>So I can sync all my bookmarks.

00:30:12.920 --> 00:30:16.040
<v Paul>No, I think the iOS version needs a lot of work, but

00:30:16.680 --> 00:30:17.000
<v Paul>uh

00:30:17.480 --> 00:30:19.560
<v Paul>it's yeah, I've I've uh

00:30:19.940 --> 00:30:21.539
<v Paul>I did not hesitate.

00:30:21.539 --> 00:30:25.620
<v Paul>I picked a browser, imported stuff, and just leaned into it.

00:30:25.620 --> 00:30:27.860
<v Paul>And I I don't even think I have ARC.

00:30:28.040 --> 00:30:28.440
<v Paul>I still

00:30:28.680 --> 00:30:29.960
<v Paul>actually I do still have ARC

00:30:30.120 --> 00:30:31.160
<v Paul>installed on

00:30:31.400 --> 00:30:31.640
<v Paul>uh

00:30:31.960 --> 00:30:33.560
<v Paul>my computer, but uh

00:30:33.720 --> 00:30:34.440
<v Paul>not for long.

00:30:34.440 --> 00:30:34.680
<v Paul>It's uh

00:30:34.920 --> 00:30:36.120
<v Paul>in fact, you know what?

00:30:36.120 --> 00:30:38.120
<v Paul>I'm gonna uninstall it right

00:30:38.440 --> 00:30:39.400
<v Paul>now.

00:30:39.620 --> 00:30:42.100
<v Drew>Why is ARK being sunset?

00:30:42.100 --> 00:30:42.660
<v Drew>Answer.

00:30:42.900 --> 00:30:52.100
<v Drew>Keeping a browser safe and secure has become harder and harder in the age of AI, and we can no longer keep ARC as safe and secure as it needs to be.

00:30:53.080 --> 00:30:53.800
<v Drew>Strong

00:30:54.040 --> 00:30:54.360
<v Drew>strong

00:30:54.680 --> 00:30:56.520
<v Drew>choice of reasons.

00:30:56.520 --> 00:31:03.480
<v Drew>Our security team is focusing on Dia, which we built from the ground up to protect against modern-day security attacks.

00:31:03.140 --> 00:31:12.420
<v Drew>Many of ARC's best ideas already live in Dia, including spaces, as profiles you can swipe between and choose whether you want them to share data or not, folders, pin tabs, and tabs which

00:31:12.580 --> 00:31:12.660
<v Drew>are

00:31:12.820 --> 00:31:13.060
<v Drew>so

00:31:13.460 --> 00:31:18.260
<v Drew>They're leaning into, hey, AI's making it hard to make stuff secure.

00:31:19.140 --> 00:31:20.420
<v Paul>That's fine.

00:31:20.420 --> 00:31:21.540
<v Paul>It's fine.

00:31:21.540 --> 00:31:22.180
<v Paul>It's gone.

00:31:22.180 --> 00:31:22.900
<v Paul>I uninstalled it.

00:31:24.620 --> 00:31:26.540
<v Paul>Yeah, and it it hasn't been getting

00:31:26.700 --> 00:31:30.780
<v Paul>the only updates it's been getting for a long time is basically Chromium updates.

00:31:30.780 --> 00:31:33.180
<v Paul>Like, cause it's based on Chromium.

00:31:33.180 --> 00:31:33.660
<v Paul>Uh

00:31:34.320 --> 00:31:36.480
<v Paul>Speaking of, that's that's one

00:31:36.880 --> 00:31:40.080
<v Paul>that is one weird quirk about the Crest browser.

00:31:40.080 --> 00:31:41.120
<v Drew>Okay.

00:31:41.120 --> 00:31:41.760
<v Paul>The Crest

00:31:42.000 --> 00:31:45.840
<v Paul>Crest browser is a multi-engine browser.

00:31:46.340 --> 00:31:46.740
<v Drew>Okay.

00:31:46.980 --> 00:31:51.380
<v Paul>You can load pages in either Chromium or WebKit.

00:31:51.539 --> 00:31:52.179
<v Drew>Okay.

00:31:52.179 --> 00:31:53.700
<v Paul>And the reason is

00:31:54.019 --> 00:31:56.500
<v Paul>unless you jump through a lot of hoops

00:31:56.919 --> 00:31:57.160
<v Paul>You

00:31:57.480 --> 00:31:58.840
<v Paul>cannot play

00:31:59.080 --> 00:31:59.720
<v Paul>DRM

00:31:59.960 --> 00:32:00.600
<v Paul>content

00:32:00.840 --> 00:32:02.919
<v Paul>in Chromium.

00:32:02.919 --> 00:32:03.960
<v Drew>Oh, I see.

00:32:03.960 --> 00:32:04.919
<v Drew>Okay.

00:32:06.100 --> 00:32:06.420
<v Paul>So

00:32:06.980 --> 00:32:07.940
<v Paul>by default

00:32:08.100 --> 00:32:12.740
<v Paul>it uses Chromium for everything, but when it detects DRM

00:32:12.900 --> 00:32:13.140
<v Paul>video

00:32:13.300 --> 00:32:16.260
<v Paul>or audio or any kind of DRM content of any kind.

00:32:16.540 --> 00:32:18.220
<v Paul>It makes a note of it and then sends

00:32:18.380 --> 00:32:19.580
<v Paul>launching that page in

00:32:19.740 --> 00:32:20.700
<v Paul>using WebKit

00:32:21.020 --> 00:32:22.620
<v Paul>so you can watch that stuff.

00:32:23.020 --> 00:32:25.580
<v Paul>It's a pretty clever workaround.

00:32:25.800 --> 00:32:36.520
<v Paul>Uh, but it is weird, especially like the first time you go to like Netflix with it, you sign in and you go to watch something and it goes, oh my god, no, launching with WebKit, and then you have to sign it again.

00:32:38.480 --> 00:32:39.840
<v Paul>And yeah, but

00:32:40.160 --> 00:32:40.720
<v Paul>it's

00:32:41.200 --> 00:32:44.000
<v Paul>it's it's a little rough around the edges, but I see

00:32:44.160 --> 00:32:46.400
<v Paul>I see the potential of Crest.

00:32:46.400 --> 00:32:47.680
<v Paul>I see the potential.

00:32:47.919 --> 00:32:48.160
<v Paul>So

00:32:50.160 --> 00:32:51.840
<v Drew>why do they call it crest?

00:32:51.840 --> 00:32:53.120
<v Drew>I see a lot of crest

00:32:53.360 --> 00:32:54.400
<v Drew>like flags.

00:32:54.480 --> 00:32:54.960
<v Drew>I'm guessing

00:32:55.760 --> 00:32:56.320
<v Paul>arc

00:32:56.519 --> 00:32:58.440
<v Paul>You know, it's a crest

00:32:58.760 --> 00:33:01.159
<v Paul>of a wave, an arc, you know.

00:33:01.159 --> 00:33:03.880
<v Paul>I'm guessing it's a play on the shape

00:33:04.240 --> 00:33:04.960
<v Paul>Oh neat.

00:33:04.960 --> 00:33:05.280
<v Drew>When I click

00:33:05.440 --> 00:33:08.880
<v Drew>when I click these different crests on the website, it changes the background color.

00:33:09.360 --> 00:33:09.680
<v Paul>Yeah,

00:33:10.160 --> 00:33:10.480
<v Paul>you can

00:33:10.640 --> 00:33:14.880
<v Paul>those are the themes that are built in by default for your different spaces in your tabs.

00:33:14.880 --> 00:33:16.800
<v Paul>You can customize all of them because of course

00:33:16.960 --> 00:33:17.600
<v Paul>you can

00:33:17.740 --> 00:33:17.900
<v Paul>Uh

00:33:18.060 --> 00:33:20.380
<v Paul>it was actually the import from Arc was really good.

00:33:20.380 --> 00:33:30.780
<v Paul>It pulled in all of my spaces, all the extensions for those spaces, the icons I used, the colors I've used, though by default some of the stuff was a little unreadable.

00:33:30.380 --> 00:33:32.300
<v Paul>So I had to tweak some things, but

00:33:32.460 --> 00:33:33.580
<v Paul>yeah, yeah.

00:33:33.580 --> 00:33:37.420
<v Paul>But like, yeah, it's got, you know, like if you look across the bottom there, like

00:33:37.660 --> 00:33:39.500
<v Paul>spaces I use, sidebur

00:33:39.660 --> 00:33:40.220
<v Paul>sidebar

00:33:40.460 --> 00:33:42.700
<v Paul>I use, split view I use.

00:33:42.640 --> 00:33:46.320
<v Paul>Peak, I use, quick windows, I use, uh

00:33:46.640 --> 00:33:50.800
<v Paul>the command palette, I that's the what I fell in love with Arc in the first place.

00:33:50.800 --> 00:33:52.320
<v Paul>You can do everything via

00:33:52.560 --> 00:33:53.680
<v Paul>keyboard, just

00:33:53.840 --> 00:33:56.640
<v Paul>hit Command T and just start typing commands

00:33:56.600 --> 00:33:57.240
<v Paul>Uh

00:33:58.039 --> 00:33:58.519
<v Paul>yes

00:33:58.840 --> 00:33:58.919
<v Paul>it

00:33:59.080 --> 00:34:00.120
<v Paul>so far it is

00:34:00.360 --> 00:34:01.799
<v Paul>so far it has been

00:34:02.039 --> 00:34:04.519
<v Paul>a perfectly chromulate web browser.

00:34:04.519 --> 00:34:04.760
<v Paul>So

00:34:05.000 --> 00:34:05.480
<v Drew>Okay.

00:34:05.480 --> 00:34:06.120
<v Paul>Mm-hmm.

00:34:06.120 --> 00:34:06.840
<v Drew>Okay.

00:34:06.760 --> 00:34:07.720
<v Drew>Well, I'm really sad.

00:34:07.720 --> 00:34:07.960
<v Drew>I know

00:34:08.119 --> 00:34:09.639
<v Drew>what a big proponent of Arc you were.

00:34:09.639 --> 00:34:11.720
<v Drew>It seems like you're finally breaking up with your favorite

00:34:11.960 --> 00:34:13.080
<v Drew>with your favorite browser.

00:34:13.080 --> 00:34:13.480
<v Paul>Uh if

00:34:13.639 --> 00:34:15.480
<v Paul>they would continue to ship Chromium

00:34:15.639 --> 00:34:18.440
<v Paul>updates, I would continue to use Arc.

00:34:19.279 --> 00:34:21.679
<v Paul>It's not something I was looking to do.

00:34:21.679 --> 00:34:23.119
<v Paul>I was happy with Arc.

00:34:23.119 --> 00:34:24.879
<v Paul>It was great.

00:34:24.879 --> 00:34:26.639
<v Paul>But I'm just, yeah, I just

00:34:26.799 --> 00:34:27.359
<v Paul>when they

00:34:27.559 --> 00:34:29.079
<v Paul>Then that information came out.

00:34:29.079 --> 00:34:30.440
<v Paul>I, you know, got the email.

00:34:30.440 --> 00:34:34.200
<v Paul>I was like, well, it's time to pick one of these alternatives and just lean into it.

00:34:34.200 --> 00:34:35.960
<v Paul>And I did try I tried Zen.

00:34:35.960 --> 00:34:37.000
<v Paul>I tried some of the other ones.

00:34:37.000 --> 00:34:37.960
<v Paul>I just I did the

00:34:38.340 --> 00:34:39.620
<v Paul>Zen is too much.

00:34:39.620 --> 00:34:40.660
<v Paul>It's too much people.

00:34:40.900 --> 00:34:44.420
<v Paul>Also, it's based on the Firefox, the Gecko engine, and

00:34:45.460 --> 00:34:46.260
<v Paul>it just doesn't

00:34:46.420 --> 00:34:47.060
<v Paul>it doesn't

00:34:48.020 --> 00:34:48.500
<v Paul>no.

00:34:48.500 --> 00:34:50.740
<v Paul>No, I'm sorry Firefox fanboys.

00:34:50.740 --> 00:34:53.940
<v Paul>But your browser's bad and you should feel bad.

00:34:54.659 --> 00:34:55.460
<v Drew>Yeah.

00:34:55.460 --> 00:34:56.260
<v Drew>Hey, plenty of

00:34:56.419 --> 00:34:57.380
<v Drew>plenty of room on the opera

00:34:57.540 --> 00:34:58.740
<v Drew>bandwagon.

00:34:58.740 --> 00:35:00.100
<v Paul>Yeah, no, thank you.

00:35:02.020 --> 00:35:02.900
<v Drew>Well, Paul,

00:35:03.380 --> 00:35:04.340
<v Drew>I am going

00:35:04.660 --> 00:35:05.220
<v Drew>I I have

00:35:05.380 --> 00:35:07.620
<v Drew>I have balm to soothe you.

00:35:07.620 --> 00:35:08.180
<v Paul>Okay.

00:35:08.180 --> 00:35:08.820
<v Drew>Please come

00:35:08.980 --> 00:35:09.620
<v Drew>please come.

00:35:09.620 --> 00:35:09.860
<v Drew>I I

00:35:10.020 --> 00:35:11.540
<v Drew>I have sucker.

00:35:11.160 --> 00:35:12.920
<v Drew>That can help you make your problem

00:35:13.160 --> 00:35:15.400
<v Drew>seem small in comparison.

00:35:15.400 --> 00:35:15.880
<v Paul>Okay.

00:35:15.880 --> 00:35:20.840
<v Drew>Because we're gonna go to everybody's other favorite segment on the show, and that's Drew's Computer Corner.

00:35:20.840 --> 00:35:21.160
<v Paul>Oh

00:35:23.460 --> 00:35:23.700
<v Paul>Okay.

00:35:24.180 --> 00:35:25.540
<v Paul>What happened, Drew?

00:35:26.340 --> 00:35:27.220
<v Drew>I'm gonna do a little setup.

00:35:28.740 --> 00:35:31.620
<v Drew>I'm gonna explain why we're about to discuss all the things that we're gonna do.

00:35:31.780 --> 00:35:32.340
<v Paul>I still see your sim

00:35:32.500 --> 00:35:33.780
<v Paul>ring in the corner, so

00:35:35.140 --> 00:35:35.940
<v Drew>Yep.

00:35:36.500 --> 00:35:37.859
<v Drew>Everything everything's fine there.

00:35:37.859 --> 00:35:38.180
<v Drew>Okay.

00:35:38.180 --> 00:35:38.980
<v Drew>Everything's fine there.

00:35:38.980 --> 00:35:39.380
<v Drew>In fact, that

00:35:39.619 --> 00:35:41.540
<v Drew>that has been so fun, by the way.

00:35:42.080 --> 00:35:42.400
<v Paul>Good.

00:35:42.400 --> 00:35:44.000
<v Drew>I look like such a fucking dork

00:35:44.160 --> 00:35:45.520
<v Drew>when I'm in that thing.

00:35:45.520 --> 00:35:50.960
<v Drew>Um, but I'm already thinking about the other stuff that I want to add to that without it being totally obnoxious.

00:35:50.960 --> 00:35:52.800
<v Drew>But that's that's a subject for a different day.

00:35:52.740 --> 00:35:53.300
<v Paul>Okay.

00:35:53.300 --> 00:35:53.860
<v Drew>Alright.

00:35:53.860 --> 00:35:56.180
<v Drew>So we're approaching wintertime

00:35:56.500 --> 00:35:56.820
<v Drew>where

00:35:57.140 --> 00:36:05.860
<v Drew>I have a little less responsibility on the weekends because I'm not doing as much yard work, although I'm gonna have to do leaves and stuff over the next few weeks, but whatever.

00:36:05.680 --> 00:36:09.359
<v Drew>Days are getting shorter, nights are getting longer, it's darker outside.

00:36:09.359 --> 00:36:10.720
<v Drew>I am getting into

00:36:11.200 --> 00:36:11.359
<v Drew>now

00:36:11.520 --> 00:36:19.200
<v Drew>I'm ready to go back and play some video games that maybe I didn't get to play over the summer, finish some games that I started that I didn't get to play.

00:36:19.380 --> 00:36:19.859
<v Drew>So uh

00:36:20.099 --> 00:36:21.140
<v Drew>what I did is

00:36:21.299 --> 00:36:25.539
<v Drew>over the last couple weeks I've been downloading some backlog games on my computer.

00:36:25.539 --> 00:36:26.020
<v Paul>Okay.

00:36:26.020 --> 00:36:29.859
<v Drew>There's two games that I started earlier this year that I haven't.

00:36:28.960 --> 00:36:29.120
<v Drew>finish

00:36:29.280 --> 00:36:30.800
<v Drew>that I really want to get back to.

00:36:30.800 --> 00:36:32.640
<v Drew>One of those games is Metal Gear Solid

00:36:33.760 --> 00:36:36.720
<v Drew>Metal Gear Solid Delta, which I have talked about on this show.

00:36:36.720 --> 00:36:37.040
<v Paul>You have

00:36:37.200 --> 00:36:40.320
<v Drew>so a remake in the Unreal Engine 5.

00:36:40.580 --> 00:36:40.740
<v Drew>uh

00:36:40.980 --> 00:36:47.460
<v Drew>of the Metal Gear Solid 3 game, which is the best Metal Gear Solid game, and it's not even close.

00:36:47.460 --> 00:36:49.940
<v Drew>I was really looking forward to playing through that game

00:36:50.100 --> 00:36:51.140
<v Drew>and Robocop

00:36:51.300 --> 00:36:55.060
<v Drew>Rogue City, which I had started and got pretty far through.

00:36:55.120 --> 00:36:56.640
<v Drew>Very, very fun game.

00:36:56.640 --> 00:36:57.760
<v Drew>Very campy.

00:36:57.760 --> 00:36:58.720
<v Drew>I love the

00:36:58.880 --> 00:37:02.720
<v Drew>side missions and and all the things that you could do in it and everything.

00:37:02.720 --> 00:37:02.880
<v Drew>Was

00:37:03.040 --> 00:37:05.120
<v Drew>really looking forward to finishing that game.

00:37:06.940 --> 00:37:11.260
<v Drew>Now, what I've noticed, or what I started noticing, is

00:37:11.580 --> 00:37:17.900
<v Drew>when I play certain games on my computer, what was happening is my monitor would lose signal.

00:37:19.980 --> 00:37:24.060
<v Drew>Computer would not crash, game would not crash, monitor would go blank, would say

00:37:24.220 --> 00:37:27.339
<v Drew>no signal, I would still hear audio in my headset

00:37:28.180 --> 00:37:30.260
<v Drew>So I thought, that's weird.

00:37:30.260 --> 00:37:30.820
<v Paul>It's weird.

00:37:30.820 --> 00:37:32.660
<v Drew>I wonder what that's about.

00:37:33.140 --> 00:37:33.380
<v Drew>So

00:37:33.540 --> 00:37:37.780
<v Drew>I started doing some investigating, and what I have come to discover

00:37:38.140 --> 00:37:45.980
<v Drew>is that my computer, apparently, when I play any game that is Unreal Engine 4 or 5.

00:37:46.740 --> 00:37:51.620
<v Drew>Especially if the game has a cutscene, my computer just

00:37:51.860 --> 00:37:52.340
<v Drew>conks

00:37:52.580 --> 00:37:52.980
<v Drew>out.

00:37:52.980 --> 00:37:56.980
<v Drew>The only way I can get it to recover is to reboot the machine.

00:37:57.560 --> 00:37:59.640
<v Drew>This does not happen in every game.

00:37:59.640 --> 00:38:01.400
<v Drew>It does not happen in every workload.

00:38:01.400 --> 00:38:03.720
<v Drew>In fact, I play very demanding

00:38:04.040 --> 00:38:05.960
<v Drew>GPU-based games in VR.

00:38:06.680 --> 00:38:08.040
<v Drew>And I do not have this problem.

00:38:08.040 --> 00:38:08.440
<v Paul>Okay.

00:38:08.440 --> 00:38:09.960
<v Drew>So I thought, okay.

00:38:10.240 --> 00:38:10.480
<v Drew>Let's

00:38:10.720 --> 00:38:12.800
<v Drew>let's approach this logically.

00:38:12.800 --> 00:38:15.040
<v Drew>This is happening with certain game engines.

00:38:15.040 --> 00:38:17.440
<v Drew>It is also only happening with my monitor.

00:38:21.440 --> 00:38:23.120
<v Drew>None of that makes sense.

00:38:23.120 --> 00:38:26.240
<v Drew>And by the way, both VR headsets, the Steam Frame, which I go

00:38:26.480 --> 00:38:29.360
<v Drew>which goes wirelessly, and my PyMax, which uses DisplayPort.

00:38:29.620 --> 00:38:33.060
<v Drew>Not losing anything on that when I played DCS.

00:38:33.060 --> 00:38:33.620
<v Drew>Okay.

00:38:33.940 --> 00:38:36.420
<v Drew>So I started looking into it, started browsing it.

00:38:36.420 --> 00:38:39.940
<v Drew>You know, there was some troubleshooting steps and I went through all those things.

00:38:39.940 --> 00:38:41.540
<v Drew>I did a clean driver install.

00:38:41.540 --> 00:38:43.140
<v Drew>Didn't resolve the issue

00:38:43.220 --> 00:38:43.380
<v Drew>Uh

00:38:43.539 --> 00:38:44.980
<v Drew>the issue was intermittent.

00:38:44.980 --> 00:38:46.020
<v Drew>It wasn't consistent.

00:38:46.020 --> 00:38:46.740
<v Drew>Although

00:38:46.980 --> 00:38:49.460
<v Drew>there's one cutscene on Robocop Robe City.

00:38:49.460 --> 00:38:50.339
<v Drew>Doesn't matter.

00:38:50.339 --> 00:38:50.740
<v Paul>Just because

00:38:51.059 --> 00:38:51.140
<v Paul>it

00:38:51.299 --> 00:38:52.020
<v Paul>does it every time.

00:38:52.260 --> 00:38:54.099
<v Drew>As soon as that cutscene starts playing, like

00:38:54.260 --> 00:38:55.220
<v Drew>boom.

00:38:55.320 --> 00:38:56.360
<v Drew>And just freaks

00:38:56.600 --> 00:38:57.080
<v Drew>out.

00:38:57.080 --> 00:38:58.040
<v Drew>So I was like, this

00:38:58.280 --> 00:38:59.000
<v Drew>is no good.

00:38:59.000 --> 00:39:01.480
<v Drew>So I spent an entire weekend

00:39:01.640 --> 00:39:03.720
<v Drew>tearing my computer apart.

00:39:03.559 --> 00:39:03.720
<v Paul>Okay.

00:39:10.680 --> 00:39:12.760
<v Drew>I have, you know, originally

00:39:12.920 --> 00:39:14.920
<v Drew>and you can't see it on camera.

00:39:15.020 --> 00:39:16.940
<v Drew>I had those rack mount

00:39:17.260 --> 00:39:17.820
<v Drew>cases

00:39:18.460 --> 00:39:19.260
<v Drew>with stuff in it.

00:39:19.260 --> 00:39:21.420
<v Drew>Plenty of fans, plenty of cooling.

00:39:21.420 --> 00:39:23.020
<v Drew>I was watching temperatures.

00:39:23.020 --> 00:39:24.619
<v Drew>I was watching all this stuff.

00:39:24.260 --> 00:39:25.300
<v Drew>But I thought, hey, you know what?

00:39:25.300 --> 00:39:26.180
<v Drew>I'll bite the bullet.

00:39:26.180 --> 00:39:30.580
<v Drew>I ripped everything out of those cases, put them in my original cases with fans.

00:39:30.580 --> 00:39:32.100
<v Drew>Did not solve the problem.

00:39:32.100 --> 00:39:36.340
<v Drew>Clean Windows reboot did not or reinstall did not fix the problem.

00:39:36.839 --> 00:39:37.160
<v Drew>And

00:39:37.400 --> 00:39:39.800
<v Drew>I did some more testing, did some RAM

00:39:39.960 --> 00:39:41.560
<v Drew>testing, and what I

00:39:41.720 --> 00:39:46.280
<v Drew>what I basically narrowed it down to, I was like, look, there's obviously something wrong with my computer.

00:39:46.280 --> 00:39:49.000
<v Drew>I cannot properly diagnose what it is.

00:39:49.000 --> 00:39:51.480
<v Drew>I tried turning off the overclock that I had.

00:39:51.480 --> 00:39:53.480
<v Drew>I tried resetting my RAM speed.

00:39:53.480 --> 00:39:55.720
<v Drew>I tried resetting my GPU.

00:39:55.720 --> 00:39:56.840
<v Drew>I checked for all the

00:39:57.000 --> 00:39:57.400
<v Drew>BIOS

00:39:57.560 --> 00:39:58.520
<v Drew>updates.

00:39:58.880 --> 00:39:59.119
<v Drew>did

00:39:59.359 --> 00:40:02.880
<v Drew>everything that I've done for troubleshooting with computers since time

00:40:03.039 --> 00:40:03.920
<v Drew>immemorium.

00:40:03.920 --> 00:40:04.480
<v Paul>Right.

00:40:04.480 --> 00:40:05.920
<v Drew>Immemorial.

00:40:05.920 --> 00:40:06.240
<v Drew>So

00:40:06.720 --> 00:40:08.640
<v Drew>what this basically came down to was

00:40:08.799 --> 00:40:10.079
<v Drew>there's obviously a problem here.

00:40:10.079 --> 00:40:10.880
<v Drew>It's either my video

00:40:11.039 --> 00:40:13.359
<v Drew>card, my motherboard, or my RAM.

00:40:13.320 --> 00:40:14.920
<v Drew>Or my CPU.

00:40:15.160 --> 00:40:17.080
<v Paul>So basically it could be anything.

00:40:17.080 --> 00:40:18.760
<v Drew>I disconnected peripherals.

00:40:18.760 --> 00:40:20.120
<v Drew>I went down to one monitor.

00:40:20.120 --> 00:40:21.720
<v Drew>I got rid of my KVM switch.

00:40:21.720 --> 00:40:24.840
<v Drew>I disconnected every single USB except my keyboard and mouse.

00:40:24.840 --> 00:40:25.240
<v Drew>Like

00:40:25.580 --> 00:40:26.140
<v Drew>Could not

00:40:26.380 --> 00:40:26.620
<v Drew>could

00:40:26.780 --> 00:40:30.220
<v Drew>not isolate this problem, could not figure it out.

00:40:30.220 --> 00:40:30.460
<v Drew>Now

00:40:30.620 --> 00:40:33.420
<v Drew>I have extra GPUs in my other

00:40:33.660 --> 00:40:34.620
<v Drew>computer.

00:40:34.700 --> 00:40:35.260
<v Drew>The problem is

00:40:35.580 --> 00:40:37.180
<v Drew>they're AMD GPUs.

00:40:37.839 --> 00:40:45.040
<v Drew>It does have a 50-90 in it, but my power supply in my other computer is not powerful enough to run that GPU.

00:40:45.240 --> 00:40:45.800
<v Paul>Okay.

00:40:45.800 --> 00:40:46.840
<v Drew>So what did I do?

00:40:46.840 --> 00:40:47.880
<v Drew>I went to Micro Center

00:40:48.040 --> 00:40:50.120
<v Drew>and I thought maybe my PSU is going bad.

00:40:50.120 --> 00:40:54.920
<v Drew>I bought a new thousand watt PSU, slapped that in there, tried it, same problem.

00:40:54.920 --> 00:40:55.240
<v Paul>Okay

00:40:56.580 --> 00:41:01.540
<v Drew>And I thought to myself, I was like, okay, how are we going to fix this problem?

00:41:01.540 --> 00:41:09.700
<v Drew>If it's the GPU, first of all, they don't make 4090s anymore, which is what I'm currently running, and you can't buy a 5090

00:41:10.180 --> 00:41:11.060
<v Drew>You can't buy

00:41:11.300 --> 00:41:11.859
<v Drew>and and

00:41:12.579 --> 00:41:12.740
<v Paul>they

00:41:12.900 --> 00:41:14.180
<v Drew>they're not in stock.

00:41:14.420 --> 00:41:17.300
<v Drew>And the ones that are in stock are sold by third parties.

00:41:17.300 --> 00:41:19.700
<v Drew>Your chances of getting scammed are astronomical.

00:41:19.700 --> 00:41:20.740
<v Drew>They are going for six

00:41:20.900 --> 00:41:22.579
<v Drew>to seven thousand dollars.

00:41:22.980 --> 00:41:23.380
<v Paul>That's

00:41:23.540 --> 00:41:23.940
<v Paul>okay.

00:41:23.940 --> 00:41:25.380
<v Paul>Yep, I get it.

00:41:25.700 --> 00:41:25.940
<v Drew>So

00:41:26.180 --> 00:41:28.180
<v Drew>probably not the best choice.

00:41:28.180 --> 00:41:34.820
<v Drew>But at the same time, if I'm gonna go buy a motherboard, I might as well just bite the bullet, buy a CPU, buy some RAM

00:41:35.140 --> 00:41:37.779
<v Drew>Because, you know, number one, I don't know if the CPU's bad.

00:41:37.779 --> 00:41:38.339
<v Drew>And second of all

00:41:39.539 --> 00:41:40.420
<v Paul>new computer.

00:41:41.380 --> 00:41:41.779
<v Drew>Don't

00:41:41.940 --> 00:41:42.500
<v Drew>don't

00:41:42.859 --> 00:41:43.980
<v Drew>Don't spoil this.

00:41:43.980 --> 00:41:45.099
<v Drew>Don't spoil this.

00:41:48.140 --> 00:41:49.099
<v Paul>I think all the listeners

00:41:49.260 --> 00:41:53.420
<v Paul>at this point are like, he just built a whole new goddamn gaming PC, didn't he?

00:41:53.620 --> 00:41:55.060
<v Drew>You're half right.

00:41:55.060 --> 00:41:56.580
<v Paul>Okay.

00:41:56.580 --> 00:41:57.300
<v Drew>I didn't

00:41:57.460 --> 00:42:00.020
<v Drew>I didn't build a whole new computer.

00:42:00.020 --> 00:42:01.860
<v Paul>Did you buy?

00:42:04.100 --> 00:42:04.420
<v Paul>Oh

00:42:05.700 --> 00:42:05.940
<v Paul>look

00:42:06.100 --> 00:42:06.740
<v Paul>at you

00:42:07.340 --> 00:42:08.220
<v Paul>Okay, here we're going

00:42:08.380 --> 00:42:09.100
<v Paul>to the Micro Center

00:42:09.340 --> 00:42:10.940
<v Paul>webpage here.

00:42:10.940 --> 00:42:13.100
<v Paul>Oh, I am looking at

00:42:13.980 --> 00:42:14.300
<v Paul>Oh

00:42:14.460 --> 00:42:16.300
<v Paul>shit, Drew.

00:42:16.780 --> 00:42:17.500
<v Paul>Okay.

00:42:19.660 --> 00:42:20.060
<v Paul>Hey

00:42:22.200 --> 00:42:23.160
<v Paul>I'm sorry.

00:42:23.160 --> 00:42:23.560
<v Paul>Let me

00:42:23.720 --> 00:42:24.200
<v Paul>let me uh

00:42:24.360 --> 00:42:24.520
<v Paul>mm

00:42:24.840 --> 00:42:25.080
<v Paul>I'm

00:42:25.640 --> 00:42:25.720
<v Paul>now

00:42:25.960 --> 00:42:26.440
<v Drew>take your time.

00:42:26.440 --> 00:42:27.080
<v Paul>I'm a please.

00:42:27.080 --> 00:42:29.080
<v Paul>I'm I'm a professional podcaster.

00:42:29.080 --> 00:42:29.960
<v Paul>Hold on.

00:42:31.620 --> 00:42:33.380
<v Paul>I am looking at a

00:42:33.700 --> 00:42:34.580
<v Paul>PowerSpec

00:42:34.820 --> 00:42:37.220
<v Paul>AI 90 workstation.

00:42:37.220 --> 00:42:39.940
<v Paul>Its key features include an AMD Ryzen

00:42:40.180 --> 00:42:42.820
<v Paul>9, 9950X 4.

00:42:42.820 --> 00:42:43.700
<v Paul>3 GHz

00:42:43.940 --> 00:42:45.060
<v Paul>processor.

00:42:44.859 --> 00:42:45.579
<v Paul>A Asus

00:42:45.820 --> 00:42:46.380
<v Paul>ProArt

00:42:46.619 --> 00:42:46.859
<v Paul>X

00:42:48.460 --> 00:42:49.740
<v Paul>8070E

00:42:49.900 --> 00:42:50.220
<v Paul>creator

00:42:50.380 --> 00:42:52.380
<v Paul>Wi-Fi motherboard, 64GB

00:42:52.859 --> 00:42:53.900
<v Paul>of DDR5

00:42:54.220 --> 00:42:55.500
<v Paul>600 RAM.

00:42:55.500 --> 00:42:55.579
<v Paul>Well

00:42:55.740 --> 00:42:57.500
<v Paul>better, that was a pricey part of it

00:42:57.720 --> 00:42:58.119
<v Paul>Two

00:42:58.279 --> 00:43:01.000
<v Paul>terabyte SSDs, uh

00:43:01.160 --> 00:43:01.240
<v Paul>some

00:43:01.480 --> 00:43:03.319
<v Paul>connectivity stuff, Windows Pro

00:43:03.480 --> 00:43:04.599
<v Paul>11, yeah, and it

00:43:05.799 --> 00:43:07.160
<v Paul>'s a gforce RTX

00:43:07.319 --> 00:43:08.200
<v Paul>5090

00:43:08.359 --> 00:43:08.760
<v Paul>FE

00:43:09.520 --> 00:43:11.599
<v Paul>Graphics cards the founded

00:43:11.839 --> 00:43:12.320
<v Paul>edition.

00:43:12.320 --> 00:43:13.760
<v Paul>Yep.

00:43:13.760 --> 00:43:14.079
<v Paul>The

00:43:14.400 --> 00:43:16.079
<v Paul>current price on

00:43:17.240 --> 00:43:18.600
<v Paul>Microcenter.

00:43:18.600 --> 00:43:18.920
<v Paul>com

00:43:19.240 --> 00:43:19.560
<v Paul>is

00:43:20.120 --> 00:43:22.440
<v Paul>$9,299.

00:43:22.600 --> 00:43:23.960
<v Paul>99.

00:43:23.960 --> 00:43:25.160
<v Drew>That is not what I paid.

00:43:25.160 --> 00:43:25.880
<v Paul>Okay, good.

00:43:25.880 --> 00:43:26.360
<v Paul>Okay.

00:43:26.360 --> 00:43:27.720
<v Drew>I paid I paid $300

00:43:27.960 --> 00:43:28.440
<v Drew>less than that.

00:43:28.440 --> 00:43:28.760
<v Drew>Okay, good.

00:43:28.920 --> 00:43:30.840
<v Drew>The price has already gone up since I bought it.

00:43:30.840 --> 00:43:31.960
<v Paul>Okay.

00:43:31.540 --> 00:43:33.540
<v Paul>Did it solve your problem?

00:43:33.540 --> 00:43:34.500
<v Drew>So far.

00:43:37.700 --> 00:43:38.420
<v Paul>That's a

00:43:38.580 --> 00:43:40.100
<v Paul>that's a pricey machine.

00:43:40.100 --> 00:43:41.860
<v Paul>Did you keep it in that same case or did you

00:43:42.260 --> 00:43:43.620
<v Drew>I did keep it in the same case.

00:43:43.620 --> 00:43:43.860
<v Paul>Okay.

00:43:43.860 --> 00:43:44.260
<v Paul>Okay.

00:43:44.260 --> 00:43:46.260
<v Drew>Alright, so let me let me explain.

00:43:46.240 --> 00:43:46.720
<v Drew>Mm-hmm.

00:43:47.040 --> 00:43:47.360
<v Drew>So

00:43:47.680 --> 00:43:48.320
<v Drew>I had

00:43:48.640 --> 00:43:49.200
<v Drew>a one

00:43:49.360 --> 00:43:53.280
<v Drew>in four chance to fix the component that was wrong with my computer.

00:43:53.440 --> 00:43:54.240
<v Paul>Right.

00:43:54.880 --> 00:43:57.039
<v Drew>If it was truly the video card,

00:43:58.000 --> 00:43:59.920
<v Drew>it really came down to

00:44:00.480 --> 00:44:03.599
<v Drew>can I get by with just a 50-80?

00:44:03.700 --> 00:44:04.740
<v Paul>Okay.

00:44:04.740 --> 00:44:08.260
<v Drew>Or should I just buy should I just man up and get the 5090?

00:44:08.260 --> 00:44:11.620
<v Drew>The only way to get a 5090 right now is on a pre-build.

00:44:11.980 --> 00:44:13.020
<v Paul>Got it.

00:44:13.020 --> 00:44:13.980
<v Drew>Okay.

00:44:13.980 --> 00:44:15.100
<v Drew>So I like Power

00:44:15.260 --> 00:44:15.980
<v Drew>Spec.

00:44:15.980 --> 00:44:17.260
<v Drew>That is, for those of you that

00:44:17.420 --> 00:44:20.700
<v Drew>don't know, it is the only pre-built I will ever recommend to anybody.

00:44:20.700 --> 00:44:23.660
<v Drew>It is Micro Center's house brand of computers.

00:44:23.839 --> 00:44:25.680
<v Drew>They are built with off the

00:44:25.920 --> 00:44:27.680
<v Drew>off-the-shelf parts.

00:44:27.680 --> 00:44:31.440
<v Drew>So every motherboard, every stick of RAM, every cooler.

00:44:32.079 --> 00:44:33.599
<v Paul>You could build this PC yourself.

00:44:33.599 --> 00:44:34.240
<v Paul>You could build this

00:44:34.480 --> 00:44:38.160
<v Drew>the cases are all cases that they sell at Micro Center.

00:44:39.460 --> 00:44:42.420
<v Drew>It's all good components, okay now.

00:44:42.420 --> 00:44:46.260
<v Drew>When I decided that I was going to do this, I figured I was gonna be in

00:44:46.420 --> 00:44:48.660
<v Drew>I was gonna be in it to win it.

00:44:48.620 --> 00:44:48.780
<v Drew>from

00:44:49.100 --> 00:44:50.380
<v Drew>anywhere from three

00:44:50.620 --> 00:44:54.060
<v Drew>to seven thousand dollars to really fix my problem.

00:44:54.060 --> 00:44:54.620
<v Paul>Okay.

00:44:54.620 --> 00:44:56.780
<v Drew>Unless I was willing to not

00:44:58.300 --> 00:44:59.900
<v Drew>Buy top-end stuff.

00:44:59.900 --> 00:45:02.300
<v Drew>If I if I wasn't going for the true Halo

00:45:02.540 --> 00:45:04.460
<v Drew>products here, I

00:45:04.700 --> 00:45:08.460
<v Drew>I was gonna be in for several thousand dollars to fix my computer.

00:45:08.680 --> 00:45:09.160
<v Paul>Right.

00:45:09.160 --> 00:45:12.040
<v Drew>Not to mention the time already served

00:45:12.280 --> 00:45:14.200
<v Drew>doing the troubleshooting

00:45:14.520 --> 00:45:14.839
<v Drew>and

00:45:15.480 --> 00:45:18.359
<v Drew>ripping everything out and doing all the testing.

00:45:18.420 --> 00:45:25.700
<v Drew>Not to mention the fact that even if I could take the 5090 out of my AI machine, I still want that in my AI machine.

00:45:25.700 --> 00:45:26.900
<v Drew>I'm not willing

00:45:27.060 --> 00:45:29.780
<v Drew>to rob Peter to pay Paul.

00:45:29.820 --> 00:45:31.260
<v Drew>For this particular use case.

00:45:31.260 --> 00:45:32.780
<v Drew>I want to like the the

00:45:32.940 --> 00:45:34.860
<v Drew>the AMD cards and the NVIDIA

00:45:35.020 --> 00:45:35.500
<v Drew>cards that are

00:45:35.740 --> 00:45:36.860
<v Drew>in my AI machine are

00:45:37.020 --> 00:45:37.660
<v Drew>there for a reason.

00:45:37.660 --> 00:45:39.580
<v Drew>I do not want to compromise on that.

00:45:41.020 --> 00:45:41.340
<v Drew>So

00:45:42.380 --> 00:45:44.779
<v Drew>Long story short, Micro Center

00:45:45.020 --> 00:45:45.180
<v Drew>here

00:45:45.339 --> 00:45:46.619
<v Drew>in Columbus has two

00:45:46.779 --> 00:45:48.059
<v Drew>has two models that sh

00:45:48.220 --> 00:45:49.980
<v Drew>that come with a 5090

00:45:49.940 --> 00:45:52.180
<v Drew>The second model is the other link that I

00:45:52.339 --> 00:45:55.140
<v Drew>that I just put in there as a as a sub bullet.

00:45:55.140 --> 00:45:56.020
<v Paul>Okay.

00:45:56.020 --> 00:45:56.820
<v Drew>Okay.

00:45:56.820 --> 00:45:58.420
<v Drew>Now this is the power spec

00:45:58.840 --> 00:46:00.040
<v Drew>G916.

00:46:00.040 --> 00:46:02.920
<v Drew>This is definitely more of a gaming focused field.

00:46:03.080 --> 00:46:04.920
<v Paul>It's got it's got all the RGBiz.

00:46:04.920 --> 00:46:05.480
<v Paul>All the RGB

00:46:05.640 --> 00:46:05.720
<v Paul>is

00:46:06.440 --> 00:46:08.600
<v Drew>there's one big difference, actually

00:46:08.840 --> 00:46:09.960
<v Drew>two big differences

00:46:10.200 --> 00:46:11.160
<v Drew>between this

00:46:11.359 --> 00:46:12.560
<v Drew>And the AI90.

00:46:12.560 --> 00:46:13.359
<v Paul>It's got a different motor.

00:46:13.599 --> 00:46:14.960
<v Drew>The AI90 that I got

00:46:15.119 --> 00:46:16.000
<v Drew>has the Ryzen

00:46:16.160 --> 00:46:16.400
<v Drew>9

00:46:16.560 --> 00:46:18.320
<v Drew>9950X.

00:46:18.320 --> 00:46:19.359
<v Paul>Mm-hmm.

00:46:19.760 --> 00:46:20.079
<v Drew>The

00:46:20.720 --> 00:46:20.960
<v Drew>other

00:46:21.280 --> 00:46:22.560
<v Drew>one has the Ryzen

00:46:22.720 --> 00:46:22.960
<v Drew>9

00:46:23.119 --> 00:46:25.440
<v Drew>9950 X3D.

00:46:25.440 --> 00:46:26.079
<v Paul>Okay.

00:46:26.800 --> 00:46:29.040
<v Drew>Yes, Virginia, there is

00:46:29.920 --> 00:46:33.040
<v Drew>a big enough difference between the non-X3D

00:46:33.260 --> 00:46:35.740
<v Drew>And the X3D for it to matter for gaming.

00:46:35.740 --> 00:46:36.380
<v Paul>Okay.

00:46:36.380 --> 00:46:37.260
<v Drew>Okay.

00:46:37.260 --> 00:46:37.580
<v Drew>So

00:46:38.060 --> 00:46:38.460
<v Drew>check

00:46:38.700 --> 00:46:44.380
<v Drew>mark in the box for the G916 because that's what I would be primarily using this for.

00:46:45.260 --> 00:46:45.580
<v Drew>But

00:46:46.220 --> 00:46:46.540
<v Drew>I

00:46:46.860 --> 00:46:47.500
<v Drew>hate

00:46:48.140 --> 00:46:50.300
<v Drew>I hate that case.

00:46:50.300 --> 00:46:50.780
<v Paul>Yeah.

00:46:50.780 --> 00:46:52.700
<v Drew>And I hate that motherboard.

00:46:53.180 --> 00:46:56.620
<v Drew>I have never had a good experience with MSI components.

00:46:56.620 --> 00:46:57.740
<v Paul>Got it.

00:46:58.440 --> 00:47:02.840
<v Drew>The other thing that really sucks is that because of my brave new world of my sim

00:47:03.080 --> 00:47:05.400
<v Drew>rig, I need USB ports.

00:47:05.400 --> 00:47:09.800
<v Drew>That MSI, that MSI motherboard has like four USB ports on it.

00:47:10.839 --> 00:47:15.880
<v Drew>Meanwhile the AI 90, which is more marketed as a workstation computer, has the Pro

00:47:16.040 --> 00:47:17.720
<v Drew>Art X870

00:47:18.140 --> 00:47:23.500
<v Drew>Brother, it's got all the USB and it even has like 10 gig Ethernet on it.

00:47:23.500 --> 00:47:24.059
<v Drew>Okay.

00:47:24.059 --> 00:47:24.380
<v Paul>Okay.

00:47:24.380 --> 00:47:28.140
<v Drew>So it's more of a workstation focused build.

00:47:29.099 --> 00:47:33.500
<v Drew>I'm telling you this because I just didn't buy this computer.

00:47:33.500 --> 00:47:36.859
<v Drew>I also bought a 9950 X3D to put in it.

00:47:39.920 --> 00:47:41.920
<v Drew>Which definitely tips the scales

00:47:42.160 --> 00:47:43.440
<v Drew>on what I spent.

00:47:46.099 --> 00:47:46.339
<v Drew>So

00:47:46.500 --> 00:47:52.820
<v Drew>when I got it home, I basically had to take the cooler off, clean it, repaste it, put it back together.

00:47:52.820 --> 00:47:56.500
<v Drew>I have been able to finish Metal Gear Solid 3 Snake Eater.

00:47:56.260 --> 00:47:58.020
<v Drew>Or Delta, I should say, Snake Eater.

00:47:58.020 --> 00:47:58.260
<v Drew>I'm work

00:47:58.500 --> 00:47:59.460
<v Drew>I'm gonna try Robocop

00:47:59.700 --> 00:48:00.900
<v Drew>Rogue Sissy for Rogue City.

00:48:00.900 --> 00:48:01.620
<v Drew>Rogue Sissy.

00:48:01.620 --> 00:48:02.580
<v Drew>Rogue City to make sure.

00:48:02.820 --> 00:48:04.180
<v Paul>I'd play that, Rogue Sissy.

00:48:04.180 --> 00:48:04.580
<v Drew>Absolutely.

00:48:04.580 --> 00:48:04.740
<v Drew>I would

00:48:04.900 --> 00:48:05.060
<v Drew>play.

00:48:05.060 --> 00:48:05.300
<v Drew>Yeah.

00:48:05.540 --> 00:48:07.300
<v Drew>I would absolutely play that too.

00:48:07.059 --> 00:48:09.859
<v Drew>Uh, but everything so far seems to be working.

00:48:09.859 --> 00:48:10.339
<v Drew>Now,

00:48:11.299 --> 00:48:14.579
<v Drew>I'm not ready to give up on that other computer yet.

00:48:14.579 --> 00:48:15.140
<v Drew>I do

00:48:15.380 --> 00:48:15.460
<v Drew>Uh

00:48:15.620 --> 00:48:15.700
<v Drew>because

00:48:15.860 --> 00:48:18.660
<v Drew>that's got sixty four gigs of RAM, it's got a decent Ryzen

00:48:18.820 --> 00:48:22.340
<v Drew>7 on it, it has a 4090, it has a good motherboard.

00:48:22.340 --> 00:48:24.020
<v Drew>If I could definitively

00:48:24.340 --> 00:48:29.460
<v Drew>figure out what's wrong with that and I've rolled out the power supply obviously but if I could definitively figure out what's wrong with that

00:48:29.620 --> 00:48:32.100
<v Drew>I would either repurpose it or I would sell it

00:48:32.340 --> 00:48:33.140
<v Drew>probably for

00:48:33.380 --> 00:48:33.620
<v Drew>two

00:48:33.860 --> 00:48:34.100
<v Drew>grand

00:48:34.740 --> 00:48:36.260
<v Drew>for those components to recoup

00:48:36.420 --> 00:48:37.300
<v Drew>some of the cost.

00:48:37.460 --> 00:48:40.420
<v Drew>I I really think that's what I could conceivably get for that.

00:48:40.420 --> 00:48:44.260
<v Drew>If I could definitively identify what the problem is, but I'm not the kind of person

00:48:44.460 --> 00:48:46.860
<v Drew>That's just gonna put that up on Facebook marketplace and be like,

00:48:47.100 --> 00:48:47.420
<v Drew>go feel

00:48:47.900 --> 00:48:48.140
<v Drew>right.

00:48:48.220 --> 00:48:48.940
<v Drew>I I would

00:48:49.100 --> 00:48:54.540
<v Drew>I would not feel I could sleep at night if I was selling something to somebody that I thought had a defect.

00:48:54.540 --> 00:48:57.580
<v Drew>So if I could definitively figure out what's wrong with that

00:48:57.820 --> 00:49:00.060
<v Drew>I would absolutely consider selling it.

00:49:00.060 --> 00:49:02.380
<v Drew>But this computer is is pretty rad.

00:49:02.380 --> 00:49:02.540
<v Drew>Um

00:49:02.700 --> 00:49:04.220
<v Drew>I do like the case.

00:49:04.220 --> 00:49:06.620
<v Drew>It is it is a nice fractal design case.

00:49:06.620 --> 00:49:06.700
<v Drew>Um

00:49:07.420 --> 00:49:07.500
<v Paul>I

00:49:07.859 --> 00:49:08.020
<v Paul>Uh

00:49:08.180 --> 00:49:09.140
<v Paul>I have no issue.

00:49:09.140 --> 00:49:11.859
<v Paul>And you know how I feel about RGB and gaming PCs.

00:49:11.859 --> 00:49:13.300
<v Drew>Yeah, that was the other thing too.

00:49:13.619 --> 00:49:13.940
<v Drew>That's good.

00:49:14.420 --> 00:49:15.220
<v Drew>Yeah, it does.

00:49:15.220 --> 00:49:16.500
<v Drew>And the case itself

00:49:17.099 --> 00:49:21.500
<v Drew>That fractal case, I wish it was the one that had the more natural wood grain.

00:49:21.500 --> 00:49:24.460
<v Drew>As it stands, this has like the black wood grain on the front, but it's fine.

00:49:27.500 --> 00:49:28.300
<v Drew>But so far

00:49:28.460 --> 00:49:29.100
<v Drew>so good.

00:49:29.340 --> 00:49:32.460
<v Drew>I even dropped some of my other SSD drives in it.

00:49:32.460 --> 00:49:34.540
<v Drew>Those haven't been a problem yet

00:49:35.200 --> 00:49:36.880
<v Drew>But that is what I had to do.

00:49:36.880 --> 00:49:38.080
<v Drew>Now, let me tell you about

00:49:38.720 --> 00:49:39.440
<v Paul>expensive true.

00:49:39.440 --> 00:49:41.040
<v Paul>Jesus Christ, that's expensive.

00:49:41.040 --> 00:49:41.840
<v Drew>I know, Paul.

00:49:41.840 --> 00:49:42.160
<v Drew>I know.

00:49:44.280 --> 00:49:44.600
<v Paul>F fun

00:49:44.840 --> 00:49:45.000
<v Paul>fun

00:49:45.160 --> 00:49:45.960
<v Paul>diversion.

00:49:45.960 --> 00:49:47.080
<v Paul>At work today,

00:49:47.400 --> 00:49:48.920
<v Paul>we still have an on-prem data center.

00:49:48.920 --> 00:49:51.400
<v Paul>We still buy servers.

00:49:51.400 --> 00:49:53.800
<v Paul>Servers that we had previously bought

00:49:54.040 --> 00:49:54.280
<v Paul>For

00:49:54.440 --> 00:49:56.520
<v Paul>twenty-five thousand dollars

00:49:57.560 --> 00:49:58.920
<v Paul>with a terabyte of RAM

00:49:59.080 --> 00:50:01.240
<v Paul>in them, the exact same server.

00:50:01.240 --> 00:50:02.920
<v Paul>Do you know how much they cost today?

00:50:02.920 --> 00:50:04.440
<v Drew>They were twenty-five before?

00:50:04.440 --> 00:50:05.000
<v Drew>Mm-hmm.

00:50:05.000 --> 00:50:06.360
<v Drew>They're probably pushing a hundred.

00:50:07.599 --> 00:50:08.560
<v Drew>Okay.

00:50:11.440 --> 00:50:12.480
<v Drew>Yeah.

00:50:12.960 --> 00:50:13.839
<v Drew>Yeah.

00:50:13.920 --> 00:50:14.079
<v Drew>Well

00:50:14.240 --> 00:50:16.480
<v Paul>terabytes of data center RAM, right?

00:50:16.480 --> 00:50:17.520
<v Paul>Like it's it's but

00:50:18.079 --> 00:50:19.440
<v Drew>ECC, like

00:50:19.839 --> 00:50:20.880
<v Drew>high speed,

00:50:21.200 --> 00:50:22.000
<v Drew>yep.

00:50:21.580 --> 00:50:22.620
<v Drew>I'm right there with you.

00:50:22.620 --> 00:50:28.140
<v Drew>Now again, Paul, look, when I determined that there was something wrong here, a minimum

00:50:28.300 --> 00:50:29.980
<v Drew>with current prices, for g

00:50:30.300 --> 00:50:33.020
<v Drew>forget the GPU aspect of this for the for a moment now.

00:50:33.020 --> 00:50:33.580
<v Paul>Yeah.

00:50:33.580 --> 00:50:35.980
<v Drew>A motherboard, a processor, and RAM

00:50:36.040 --> 00:50:38.200
<v Drew>For what I would want it for, I'm thinking twenty

00:50:38.360 --> 00:50:39.560
<v Drew>five hundred to three grand.

00:50:41.640 --> 00:50:42.360
<v Paul>I'm below it.

00:50:42.360 --> 00:50:42.840
<v Paul>Yeah.

00:50:43.480 --> 00:50:43.720
<v Paul>But

00:50:43.880 --> 00:50:45.080
<v Paul>Still, yeah, expensive.

00:50:45.080 --> 00:50:45.560
<v Paul>Yeah.

00:50:45.560 --> 00:50:46.360
<v Drew>And and I had

00:50:46.520 --> 00:50:48.920
<v Drew>I had plenty of time to upgrade to a fifty ninety.

00:50:48.920 --> 00:50:49.960
<v Drew>It never made sense.

00:50:49.960 --> 00:50:50.360
<v Drew>My forty

00:50:50.520 --> 00:50:50.680
<v Drew>ninety

00:50:50.840 --> 00:50:51.160
<v Drew>was great.

00:50:51.160 --> 00:50:52.520
<v Drew>I'm able to game at 4K.

00:50:52.520 --> 00:50:53.880
<v Drew>It was able to run my VR.

00:50:53.880 --> 00:50:56.280
<v Drew>I never saw a reason to upgrade.

00:50:56.220 --> 00:51:00.619
<v Drew>This is definitely one of those times where I'm kicking myself, you know, had I bought that then, would I

00:51:00.779 --> 00:51:02.299
<v Drew>would I still be having a problem

00:51:02.619 --> 00:51:02.779
<v Drew>back

00:51:03.020 --> 00:51:03.900
<v Drew>when they were three

00:51:04.059 --> 00:51:05.260
<v Drew>or four thousand dollars?

00:51:05.260 --> 00:51:06.460
<v Drew>Now they've doubled in price.

00:51:06.460 --> 00:51:06.859
<v Drew>In fact

00:51:06.960 --> 00:51:11.040
<v Drew>The 5080s have also gone up in price over the past two weeks because

00:51:12.000 --> 00:51:12.560
<v Drew>basically

00:51:12.720 --> 00:51:13.280
<v Drew>NVIDIA

00:51:13.520 --> 00:51:15.440
<v Drew>has delisted it.

00:51:16.940 --> 00:51:18.780
<v Drew>So they might not even be making fifty

00:51:18.940 --> 00:51:19.180
<v Drew>eighties

00:51:19.340 --> 00:51:19.820
<v Drew>anymore.

00:51:19.820 --> 00:51:20.140
<v Drew>Fifty

00:51:20.300 --> 00:51:21.980
<v Drew>nineties are completely out of stock.

00:51:21.980 --> 00:51:23.180
<v Drew>No one has them.

00:51:23.180 --> 00:51:23.660
<v Drew>NVIDIA

00:51:23.820 --> 00:51:28.380
<v Drew>is not making them, even though NVIDIA has not come out and said we've discontinued these cards.

00:51:28.580 --> 00:51:28.900
<v Drew>So

00:51:29.300 --> 00:51:31.940
<v Drew>supply is drying up.

00:51:31.940 --> 00:51:33.700
<v Drew>You may not be able to own these things.

00:51:33.700 --> 00:51:36.900
<v Drew>Sam Altman uh doesn't think we should have RAM at home anymore.

00:51:36.900 --> 00:51:38.100
<v Drew>I don't know if you saw all those.

00:51:38.100 --> 00:51:38.500
<v Paul>I did.

00:51:38.500 --> 00:51:38.820
<v Paul>I did.

00:51:38.820 --> 00:51:39.140
<v Paul>Yeah.

00:51:39.140 --> 00:51:41.380
<v Paul>He's basically like, give it to me.

00:51:41.180 --> 00:51:41.340
<v Paul>Like

00:51:41.500 --> 00:51:41.900
<v Paul>you can you

00:51:42.460 --> 00:51:43.340
<v Paul>I'll use it.

00:51:43.340 --> 00:51:43.660
<v Paul>You should

00:51:43.820 --> 00:51:44.060
<v Paul>just

00:51:44.220 --> 00:51:45.260
<v Paul>yeah.

00:51:45.420 --> 00:51:45.820
<v Drew>I mean

00:51:45.980 --> 00:51:56.060
<v Drew>I really do feel like the market is pushing us to where we already don't own our games, so we might as well just stream our games from a data center instead of installing them locally.

00:51:55.559 --> 00:51:56.680
<v Drew>This has trickled down

00:51:56.839 --> 00:51:59.880
<v Drew>economics to the consoles of the world and all this other stuff too.

00:51:59.880 --> 00:52:04.200
<v Drew>It's a it's a really shitty time to be a gamer, especially a PC gamer.

00:52:04.200 --> 00:52:04.440
<v Drew>I

00:52:04.599 --> 00:52:07.880
<v Drew>I am not proud of the fact that I spent this much money.

00:52:08.000 --> 00:52:08.320
<v Drew>Um

00:52:08.960 --> 00:52:17.920
<v Drew>but after spending multiple weekends trying to diagnose this stuff and just saying, basically decl saying, fuck it, I am gonna replace this.

00:52:17.920 --> 00:52:20.240
<v Drew>What should I go replace it with?

00:52:20.880 --> 00:52:22.720
<v Drew>Buy once, cry once

00:52:22.960 --> 00:52:23.119
<v Drew>,

00:52:23.440 --> 00:52:24.400
<v Drew>here we are.

00:52:24.400 --> 00:52:25.039
<v Paul>Right.

00:52:25.039 --> 00:52:27.200
<v Drew>And and for the record, okay, for

00:52:27.359 --> 00:52:27.599
<v Drew>for be

00:52:27.760 --> 00:52:29.359
<v Drew>I I already hear you at home

00:52:29.599 --> 00:52:30.880
<v Drew>laughing at me, but

00:52:31.119 --> 00:52:35.359
<v Drew>even if you look at some of the power specs that they that they sell.

00:52:35.960 --> 00:52:36.280
<v Drew>Um

00:52:37.240 --> 00:52:37.560
<v Drew>and

00:52:37.800 --> 00:52:41.480
<v Drew>you sort by highest price, which I'm doing right now.

00:52:41.480 --> 00:52:44.920
<v Drew>The 5080 machines are pushing four to five grand.

00:52:46.740 --> 00:52:47.300
<v Drew>Right.

00:52:48.099 --> 00:52:48.420
<v Drew>So

00:52:48.900 --> 00:52:49.540
<v Drew>a power

00:52:49.700 --> 00:52:50.020
<v Drew>spec

00:52:50.180 --> 00:52:52.260
<v Drew>G seven six two, which has a fifty

00:52:52.420 --> 00:52:55.780
<v Drew>eighty, and sixteen gigs of RAM.

00:52:55.820 --> 00:52:57.900
<v Drew>Or I'm sorry, 64 gigs of RAM.

00:52:58.540 --> 00:52:59.340
<v Drew>Basically

00:52:59.580 --> 00:53:05.980
<v Drew>the exact same computer, but it doesn't have a 5090 in it is $3,500.

00:53:08.060 --> 00:53:15.420
<v Drew>Now, that's still a pretty good deal, and it's considerably less than I paid, but that is roughly the difference between a 58

00:53:15.580 --> 00:53:16.540
<v Drew>and a 5090 in

00:53:16.940 --> 00:53:17.420
<v Drew>cost.

00:53:17.420 --> 00:53:18.380
<v Drew>It really is.

00:53:18.380 --> 00:53:19.420
<v Drew>Whew.

00:53:19.420 --> 00:53:20.460
<v Paul>Expensive.

00:53:20.460 --> 00:53:20.780
<v Drew>So

00:53:22.359 --> 00:53:23.000
<v Drew>But I

00:53:23.400 --> 00:53:23.799
<v Drew>I gotta

00:53:23.960 --> 00:53:24.200
<v Drew>say

00:53:24.440 --> 00:53:24.680
<v Paul>Is it

00:53:24.920 --> 00:53:25.799
<v Paul>is it good?

00:53:25.799 --> 00:53:27.240
<v Drew>It's pretty fucking fast.

00:53:29.240 --> 00:53:31.080
<v Drew>in in VR especially over the over

00:53:31.800 --> 00:53:36.680
<v Drew>with this with with this more powerful processor and the and the more powerful GPU I definitely notice a difference.

00:53:36.680 --> 00:53:36.920
<v Drew>So

00:53:37.720 --> 00:53:38.840
<v Paul>I am thankful for that.

00:53:38.840 --> 00:53:39.400
<v Drew>Now

00:53:40.080 --> 00:53:41.680
<v Drew>I want to talk about

00:53:42.000 --> 00:53:44.400
<v Drew>the process of buying this computer.

00:53:44.400 --> 00:53:44.800
<v Paul>Okay.

00:53:44.800 --> 00:53:46.240
<v Drew>Because if you have you heard about this?

00:53:46.480 --> 00:53:48.480
<v Paul>Okay, so I did notice that like

00:53:49.260 --> 00:53:52.380
<v Paul>There's purchase eligibility requirements.

00:53:52.380 --> 00:53:53.180
<v Drew>Correct.

00:53:53.180 --> 00:53:54.140
<v Paul>Yes.

00:53:54.140 --> 00:53:54.940
<v Drew>Okay.

00:53:54.940 --> 00:53:56.060
<v Drew>So I roll into

00:53:56.220 --> 00:53:57.420
<v Drew>Micro Center.

00:53:58.400 --> 00:53:58.720
<v Drew>And

00:53:59.040 --> 00:54:03.760
<v Drew>there is a particular gentleman in the computer section that recognizes me.

00:54:03.760 --> 00:54:05.040
<v Drew>Not a flex.

00:54:05.120 --> 00:54:06.720
<v Paul>Advanced computing product

00:54:06.880 --> 00:54:08.720
<v Paul>purchaser declaration.

00:54:08.720 --> 00:54:09.280
<v Drew>Correct.

00:54:09.280 --> 00:54:10.240
<v Drew>You're on it.

00:54:10.240 --> 00:54:10.640
<v Drew>Okay.

00:54:10.640 --> 00:54:11.040
<v Drew>So here

00:54:11.440 --> 00:54:12.160
<v Paul>is that true?

00:54:12.160 --> 00:54:12.400
<v Drew>So

00:54:12.559 --> 00:54:13.200
<v Drew>So when I said

00:54:13.359 --> 00:54:16.559
<v Drew>this is what I want, he said, Do you know the new process?

00:54:16.559 --> 00:54:19.839
<v Drew>And I said, I've heard about it, but I don't know how it works.

00:54:19.839 --> 00:54:20.000
<v Drew>So

00:54:20.160 --> 00:54:23.039
<v Drew>I'm gonna give you the high level detail because it took probably forty

00:54:23.200 --> 00:54:25.119
<v Drew>five minutes for this to process.

00:54:24.960 --> 00:54:26.960
<v Drew>So the first thing they do is they take your ID

00:54:27.280 --> 00:54:30.480
<v Drew>and they validate that you are who you say you are.

00:54:30.480 --> 00:54:30.720
<v Drew>Okay.

00:54:30.960 --> 00:54:33.360
<v Drew>That you have a valid state-issued ID.

00:54:33.360 --> 00:54:33.760
<v Paul>Okay.

00:54:34.000 --> 00:54:34.480
<v Drew>Okay.

00:54:34.720 --> 00:54:37.680
<v Drew>They also look you up in a database.

00:54:37.900 --> 00:54:38.940
<v Drew>Now I don't know what this

00:54:39.340 --> 00:54:40.380
<v Drew>database is.

00:54:40.380 --> 00:54:40.780
<v Drew>Right.

00:54:40.780 --> 00:54:42.620
<v Drew>Well, I think that might be part of it.

00:54:42.620 --> 00:54:43.180
<v Paul>Okay.

00:54:43.420 --> 00:54:49.260
<v Drew>But they look you up in a database to make sure that you're not using a name of somebody who is a reseller

00:54:49.500 --> 00:54:52.460
<v Drew>or someone who's gonna try to export this.

00:54:51.859 --> 00:54:52.020
<v Drew>Okay.

00:54:52.339 --> 00:54:54.740
<v Drew>Because that I think that is what they're trying to curb

00:54:54.900 --> 00:54:57.140
<v Drew>is they don't want people buying these

00:54:57.380 --> 00:54:57.540
<v Drew>and

00:54:57.859 --> 00:54:58.180
<v Paul>just

00:54:58.660 --> 00:55:00.820
<v Drew>FedExing it overseas.

00:55:01.579 --> 00:55:02.140
<v Drew>Because

00:55:02.300 --> 00:55:03.980
<v Drew>these are scarce parts.

00:55:03.980 --> 00:55:04.380
<v Paul>Yeah.

00:55:04.380 --> 00:55:06.140
<v Drew>So you have to sign that declaration.

00:55:06.140 --> 00:55:10.300
<v Drew>So I basically had to sign a little piece of paper stating, yes, I am who I say I am.

00:55:10.300 --> 00:55:12.619
<v Drew>I'm going to use it for home use.

00:55:13.000 --> 00:55:14.680
<v Drew>I'm not gonna export it.

00:55:14.680 --> 00:55:16.840
<v Drew>I'm not gonna strip it for parts.

00:55:16.840 --> 00:55:18.440
<v Drew>I had to sign all that stuff.

00:55:18.440 --> 00:55:19.320
<v Drew>They had to get

00:55:19.480 --> 00:55:20.120
<v Drew>the sellers

00:55:20.440 --> 00:55:21.640
<v Drew>they had to get the the salesperson

00:55:21.800 --> 00:55:23.880
<v Drew>'s signature, they had to get a manager to sign off.

00:55:23.880 --> 00:55:27.560
<v Drew>When I took it to the register, another manager had to sign off.

00:55:28.220 --> 00:55:28.700
<v Drew>I don't

00:55:28.860 --> 00:55:28.940
<v Drew>uh

00:55:29.100 --> 00:55:31.900
<v Drew>and like they had to take a picture of my ID.

00:55:31.900 --> 00:55:34.460
<v Drew>I don't know if that means that I can't go buy another one.

00:55:34.460 --> 00:55:34.940
<v Drew>Not that I w

00:55:35.100 --> 00:55:36.220
<v Drew>not that I'm going to, please.

00:55:36.220 --> 00:55:37.740
<v Drew>No, I'm not going to, but like

00:55:37.760 --> 00:55:44.160
<v Drew>If I roll in there tomorrow and be like, hey, let me get another one of them good good AI 90s, are

00:55:44.320 --> 00:55:45.440
<v Drew>they going to be like

00:55:45.799 --> 00:55:47.720
<v Drew>Yeah, you just borrow one of these.

00:55:47.720 --> 00:55:48.680
<v Paul>Yeah.

00:55:48.760 --> 00:55:54.839
<v Drew>I don't I don't know what that means, but it was a whole thing that I had to declare like this is for me.

00:55:54.880 --> 00:55:56.000
<v Drew>It's for my use.

00:55:56.000 --> 00:55:56.960
<v Drew>It's not going anywhere.

00:55:57.040 --> 00:55:57.600
<v Paul>That's crazy.

00:55:57.600 --> 00:55:58.400
<v Paul>That's crazy.

00:55:58.400 --> 00:55:58.960
<v Paul>I mean I get

00:55:59.200 --> 00:56:00.240
<v Paul>I get it, but

00:56:00.800 --> 00:56:03.200
<v Paul>yeah, those are the times we are in.

00:56:03.200 --> 00:56:04.240
<v Drew>Yes.

00:56:04.240 --> 00:56:05.360
<v Drew>Yes.

00:56:05.599 --> 00:56:10.640
<v Drew>So, but everybody was very happy to shake my hand and thank me for my purchase.

00:56:12.320 --> 00:56:14.079
<v Drew>Now I don't now now as

00:56:14.240 --> 00:56:16.880
<v Drew>as as a little bit of a of a of a footnote.

00:56:17.980 --> 00:56:18.220
<v Drew>The

00:56:18.460 --> 00:56:18.940
<v Drew>AI

00:56:19.100 --> 00:56:21.020
<v Drew>110 workstation.

00:56:21.020 --> 00:56:21.740
<v Paul>Okay.

00:56:22.300 --> 00:56:23.100
<v Drew>Which is

00:56:24.460 --> 00:56:24.780
<v Drew>um

00:56:25.180 --> 00:56:25.420
<v Drew>not

00:56:25.660 --> 00:56:26.300
<v Drew>the one

00:56:28.039 --> 00:56:29.000
<v Drew>Let's see.

00:56:29.000 --> 00:56:29.160
<v Drew>Uh

00:56:29.319 --> 00:56:30.520
<v Drew>AI-100.

00:56:30.520 --> 00:56:31.160
<v Paul>Okay.

00:56:31.160 --> 00:56:35.799
<v Drew>So the AI-100 workstation, which was the previous workstation I bought.

00:56:35.799 --> 00:56:37.160
<v Drew>I bought that.

00:56:37.340 --> 00:56:40.380
<v Drew>for what I paid for this computer.

00:56:40.380 --> 00:56:43.900
<v Drew>The AI 100 right now is $14,000.

00:56:43.900 --> 00:56:45.980
<v Drew>So the price of that has gone up $4,000

00:56:46.220 --> 00:56:47.420
<v Drew>since I bought it.

00:56:47.780 --> 00:56:48.020
<v Drew>So

00:56:48.180 --> 00:56:50.020
<v Drew>a little bit of a makeup call, right?

00:56:50.020 --> 00:56:52.420
<v Drew>I'm glad I got in when I did with that, because

00:56:52.580 --> 00:56:53.380
<v Drew>this was just at

00:56:53.540 --> 00:56:56.740
<v Drew>sort of the start of the climb of the prices.

00:56:57.020 --> 00:56:59.579
<v Drew>So getting in on that computer when I did, I mean

00:56:59.740 --> 00:57:00.060
<v Drew>I

00:57:00.300 --> 00:57:02.540
<v Drew>can't say I really saved that money because

00:57:03.020 --> 00:57:03.339
<v Drew>you know

00:57:03.500 --> 00:57:04.700
<v Drew>it is what it is, but

00:57:05.400 --> 00:57:06.200
<v Drew>Yeah.

00:57:06.200 --> 00:57:06.520
<v Drew>So

00:57:07.000 --> 00:57:09.240
<v Drew>it is it is a very difficult time.

00:57:09.240 --> 00:57:13.800
<v Drew>Now, after the elections of this week and some of the tech stock

00:57:14.040 --> 00:57:16.760
<v Drew>bubble fears that happened over the past few days.

00:57:17.440 --> 00:57:23.680
<v Drew>The fact that a lot of states basically put data centers on the ballot and said, like, whoa, we need to slow the fuck down

00:57:24.000 --> 00:57:24.240
<v Drew>with

00:57:24.400 --> 00:57:26.240
<v Drew>electricity costs and land

00:57:26.480 --> 00:57:26.800
<v Drew>and

00:57:27.420 --> 00:57:31.020
<v Drew>People just getting rich off of this stuff that aren't normal everyday people.

00:57:31.020 --> 00:57:33.900
<v Drew>Maybe this will help drive some of that stuff down.

00:57:33.900 --> 00:57:35.180
<v Drew>It's not gonna happen overnight.

00:57:36.540 --> 00:57:37.260
<v Paul>But maybe.

00:57:37.260 --> 00:57:38.380
<v Paul>Maybe, yeah.

00:57:38.380 --> 00:57:40.780
<v Drew>But everything you read online, everybody says

00:57:40.940 --> 00:57:42.700
<v Drew>all the capacity for 2027

00:57:42.860 --> 00:57:43.500
<v Drew>in these fab

00:57:44.140 --> 00:57:45.660
<v Drew>places is booked.

00:57:46.000 --> 00:57:48.079
<v Drew>It's all going to the big

00:57:48.640 --> 00:57:51.200
<v Drew>data center providers, the hyperscalers.

00:57:51.200 --> 00:57:51.760
<v Paul>Yeah.

00:57:51.760 --> 00:57:53.920
<v Drew>We're not gonna see this stuff.

00:57:53.920 --> 00:57:56.400
<v Drew>It's I know that it's already affected people and their switch

00:57:56.560 --> 00:57:56.800
<v Drew>twos

00:57:56.960 --> 00:57:58.560
<v Drew>and the price increases and all that other stuff.

00:57:58.560 --> 00:57:59.840
<v Drew>By the way, are you playing Ocarina

00:58:00.000 --> 00:58:00.880
<v Drew>of Time?

00:58:01.360 --> 00:58:02.240
<v Paul>No, I

00:58:02.480 --> 00:58:04.320
<v Paul>I'm not a fan.

00:58:04.540 --> 00:58:04.620
<v Paul>Can

00:58:05.020 --> 00:58:05.580
<v Drew>you know what can I

00:58:05.740 --> 00:58:06.700
<v Drew>can I be honest with you?

00:58:06.700 --> 00:58:07.420
<v Drew>I'm not either.

00:58:07.420 --> 00:58:08.780
<v Drew>I don't think that game's all that.

00:58:08.780 --> 00:58:10.140
<v Paul>No, I don't either.

00:58:10.140 --> 00:58:10.620
<v Drew>Sorry?

00:58:10.620 --> 00:58:11.020
<v Drew>No.

00:58:11.020 --> 00:58:12.220
<v Drew>Sorry, not sorry?

00:58:12.220 --> 00:58:13.020
<v Paul>No.

00:58:13.020 --> 00:58:13.340
<v Paul>No

00:58:14.640 --> 00:58:16.240
<v Drew>So yeah, that was

00:58:16.400 --> 00:58:17.600
<v Drew>that's where I

00:58:18.160 --> 00:58:21.360
<v Drew>that was the level of hell I went into over the past couple weekends.

00:58:21.920 --> 00:58:27.040
<v Paul>Well, I'm glad that at least the money has solved the problem.

00:58:27.120 --> 00:58:28.480
<v Paul>It is nice when that is the no

00:58:28.720 --> 00:58:30.080
<v Paul>that isn't an option.

00:58:30.080 --> 00:58:31.120
<v Paul>And I'm glad that you

00:58:31.520 --> 00:58:31.600
<v Paul>I

00:58:31.920 --> 00:58:36.000
<v Drew>I am definitely at a phase of my life where I have more money than time, but only just

00:58:36.260 --> 00:58:37.380
<v Drew>when it comes to this stuff.

00:58:37.380 --> 00:58:37.540
<v Drew>Now

00:58:37.860 --> 00:58:38.820
<v Paul>it's just it's still real

00:58:39.140 --> 00:58:40.900
<v Paul>it's still prices are are dumb.

00:58:40.900 --> 00:58:41.380
<v Paul>Yeah.

00:58:41.380 --> 00:58:44.420
<v Drew>I get I get a nice one year warranty directly from Micro Center.

00:58:44.420 --> 00:58:46.260
<v Drew>I can just drive it over there.

00:58:46.059 --> 00:58:47.900
<v Drew>Drive it over there if I have a problem.

00:58:47.900 --> 00:58:51.819
<v Drew>I'm covered for at least the next year to kind of hopefully weather the storm

00:58:52.059 --> 00:58:54.140
<v Drew>in case anything else bad happens.

00:58:54.140 --> 00:58:57.819
<v Drew>You know, the other things were probably either RMA cases or

00:58:58.599 --> 00:58:59.079
<v Paul>Yeah.

00:58:59.079 --> 00:58:59.560
<v Drew>Whatever.

00:58:59.560 --> 00:59:03.160
<v Drew>Because that computer I think is probably four years old at this point.

00:59:03.160 --> 00:59:03.960
<v Paul>Oh, okay.

00:59:03.960 --> 00:59:04.359
<v Paul>Yeah.

00:59:04.359 --> 00:59:05.880
<v Drew>But it but it it held up.

00:59:05.880 --> 00:59:05.960
<v Drew>Like

00:59:06.119 --> 00:59:08.599
<v Drew>I was able to I was able to I I have a 4K monitor.

00:59:08.599 --> 00:59:09.640
<v Drew>I I game in 4K.

00:59:09.640 --> 00:59:11.880
<v Drew>The 4D90 was fantastic for that

00:59:11.760 --> 00:59:14.880
<v Drew>I really hope it's not the GPU, if I'm honest.

00:59:14.880 --> 00:59:17.360
<v Drew>Because I I could really sell that and recoup

00:59:17.520 --> 00:59:18.480
<v Drew>some of this cost.

00:59:18.480 --> 00:59:19.680
<v Drew>I really, really could.

00:59:19.680 --> 00:59:21.120
<v Drew>I don't know if I would.

00:59:21.120 --> 00:59:21.760
<v Paul>Right.

00:59:22.080 --> 00:59:22.400
<v Drew>But

00:59:22.940 --> 00:59:25.660
<v Drew>Yeah, I I just need to do some more troubleshooting.

00:59:25.660 --> 00:59:27.579
<v Paul>Well, I hope you figure it out.

00:59:27.579 --> 00:59:28.619
<v Drew>Thanks, buddy.

00:59:28.619 --> 00:59:31.500
<v Drew>Anyway, that's a show.

00:59:31.500 --> 00:59:32.700
<v Paul>That's a show

00:59:33.640 --> 00:59:40.520
<v Paul>As you know, you can find all of the links we talked about in your podcast player or on doingtheirbest.

00:59:40.520 --> 00:59:41.080
<v Paul>com.

00:59:41.080 --> 00:59:44.040
<v Paul>Anyway, thanks for listening.

